By Anupreeta Das And Erik Holm
Shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. made Warren Buffett work
a little harder than usual for their loyalty at Saturday's annual
meeting.
Along with questions about investing and the markets,
shareholders probed Mr. Buffett and Berkshire Vice Chairman Charlie
Munger about Berkshire's relationship with 3G Capital and its
investments in International Business Machines Corp. and Coca-Cola
Co. One shareholder also asked Mr. Buffett to rebut accusations
that Berkshire subsidiary Clayton Homes Inc. engages in predatory
lending practices.
Since 2013, Berkshire has partnered with 3G Capital, an
investment firm with offices in New York and Brazil, on three large
acquisitions, including ketchup maker H.J. Heinz Co. Mr. Buffett,
who is friends with 3G co-founder Jorge Paulo Lemann, has said he
would like to do more friendly deals with the firm.
3G, whose founders are also among the controlling shareholders
of beer giant Anheuser Busch InBev, has developed a reputation for
being efficient but also ruthless, cutting costs and laying off
people at the companies it acquires to boost margins and improve
performance.
Mr. Buffett, meanwhile, has historically been viewed as averse
to layoffs and other cost reductions at the companies Berkshire
owns. That's not to say that Berkshire subsidiaries haven't laid
off workers, but those instances have been relatively infrequent in
the conglomerate's 50-year history under Mr. Buffett's reign.
The questions about 3G mainly had to do with whether Mr.
Buffett's approach to and philosophy of business meshed with
3G's.
One shareholder called 3G's moves "brutal" in an email read
aloud by Carol Loomis, a retired Fortune magazine journalist who
was on a panel asking questions of Mr. Buffett and Mr. Munger. The
question was about whether Mr. Buffett no longer "aspired to
balance capitalism and compassion."
Mr. Buffett said 3G had bought some companies staffed with
"considerably more people in the job than needed," but that the
layoffs spurred those same companies to perform "exceedingly well."
He cited the strong first-quarter results of Canadian
coffee-and-doughnut chain Tim Hortons, which was purchased by
3G-sponsored Burger King with Berkshire's financial backing.
"I don't know of any company that says, as a policy, 'we will
have more people than we need,' but a lot of companies ended up
that way," he said, adding that 3G optimizes the workforce in those
instances.
Another 3G-related question focused on whether, if 3G ran
Berkshire, the conglomerate's 80-odd subsidiaries would be subject
to layoffs and consolidation.
Mr. Buffett said there were probably some Berkshire businesses
that would end up with fewer jobs, but that by and large the
subsidiaries were efficiently run. Although he defended 3G, he also
tried to distinguish between its businesses and those that
Berkshire buys, saying that most Berkshire-owned businesses were
well-run to begin with.
He said Berkshire-owned Geico, the country's second-largest auto
insurer, "is run just as efficiently as 3G would run it."
Berkshire's newspaper operations are cutting costs as the industry
continues to struggle with falling subscriptions. Meanwhile,
Berkshire's headquarters in Omaha are famously lean, with just 25
people. "We could have had 500," he said.
Mr. Munger, 91, was asked whether IBM, of which Berkshire owns
about 8%, was a "cigar-butt" stock. The term refers to a company
that is a good value investment, but with only a couple of puffs
left--the kind of company Berkshire Hathaway was in 1965 when Mr.
Buffett bought control of the struggling textile mill.
Over the next five decades, Berkshire morphed into one of the
world's largest companies, with operations ranging from insurance
to a railroad. Berkshire also owns more than $110 billion of
stocks, with more than half of that portfolio invested in IBM,
Coke, Wells Fargo & Co. and American Express.
Mr. Munger said IBM wasn't a cigar butt, but instead an
"enormous enterprise" that has adapted as technology has changed.
Although recent developments in computing have brought mixed
success to the company, Berkshire had bought IBM at a "reasonable
price."
Another Berkshire investment, Coke, has been grappling with
changing consumer behavior as people move away from fizzy drinks
amid a growing awareness of the harmful effects of sugar. That
spurred a question from a shareholder, who asked if the beverage
maker's "moat"--a term used by Mr. Buffett that means competitive
advantage--was narrowing.
Mr. Buffett said he expected food and beverage companies will
adjust to the preferences of consumers over time. That is also his
rationale for agreeing to buy Kraft Foods along with 3G earlier
this year, and merge it with Heinz.
Then, playing up his notoriously unhealthy diet, which involves
the consumption of copious amounts of Cherry Coke and sugary
confections, he said: "If I lived my whole life eating broccoli and
Brussels sprouts, I probably wouldn't live as long."
Mr. Buffett, 84, has been a hero to Berkshire shareholders for
decades, having made many of them extremely wealthy as the
conglomerate's stock price has soared. He also is followed closely
by hundreds of money managers, especially value investors, who
regularly parse his letters and comments for insights.
The Q&A with Mr. Buffett and Mr. Munger is the highlight of
the meeting, with shareholders, analysts and a panel of journalists
getting to ask the duo questions for nearly six hours. Both men
have by now developed a routine, with Mr. Buffett usually taking a
stab at the question and then turning it over to Mr. Munger, whose
responses are typically brief.
Shareholders and other attendees, including hundreds of people
from outside North America, lap up the mix of wit and wisdom. This
year, Berkshire has estimated more than 40,000 people are
attending.
Write to Anupreeta Das at anupreeta.das@wsj.com and Erik Holm at
erik.holm@wsj.com
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