Joby Aviation Inc (JOBY) オプション

Wednesday after market 26th

What can we expect from the earnings call?

Anyone?

Interestingly, 51% of trading volume is now zero day options. Throw in naked shorting, hedge funds and dark pools not to mention brokerage algo bots and I think your Richard Dennis quote is heading from hope toward despair for FA dominance. Long horizon still has some merit if one wishes to ride the ups and downs. This seems to be becoming the age of riding sprinters. Shorter term swing trades and trading around a core position seems to be becoming the edge for the little guy to add slices of the market pie consistently rather than just holding. Looking to add reduced price or free shares from trading JOBY is my plan. Without Tech and AI this market would be in big trouble. The market would look far different if one took out or reduced the impact of 10-15 super stocks.
Factoring in the uncertainty in the US economy, world supply chains, debt, war etc etc and this old guy just focuses on adding pieces to what I already have, minimizing risk as much as possible and not expecting much long term. I still think FA is important, however the key to maximizing FA in my situation IMO is moving more and more to TA.

I think those in the last few generations have no idea how close to the cliffs edge things are.
PS: I consider myself a realist and try to make decisions accordingly, rather than a doom and gloomer. There are always survivors and pathways in every historical age. Sure not going to quit trading when there are still so many opportunities available.

JOBY. Yes it is showing weakness. I am watching the BB tighten. The bottom band could offer some needed support. Price will not go up until closings with confirmations turn the pink 4ema upward. Positive stacking to the 3 ema's would create a potential for new upward momentum. Price confirming above 8.36, though potentially difficult without news, would create a very positive outlook. First have to see how the week closes and Feb 15 reports.
Green Trades.

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Doing well thanks! Looking to accumulate here for plenty of solid moves in the future.

Very good to see you around as well!!

All the best!!

Hey, good to hear from you. Hope you are healthy, getting wealthier, enjoying family and life in general.
Yes, I am looking forward to the report reading as well.

Best wishes. We have shared several common stock buys in the past. May this be a really good one. 😎

Watching for the 10-K near the end of the month. Should be pretty good reading imo. Daily to me looks to be weakening a bit.

JOBY daily

Of first importance in terms of price is for JOBY to hold above the brown 50 period line and maintain the upward angle using it as support to push higher. Then making the top blue horizontal line support from strongest VbP market structure zone. Would not like price to drop below the lower blue line even if price wanders sideways in the zone. Ideally price makes the orange dotted BB midline (20period) support relatively soon. That is the optimistic upside reading. Total overall and especially more buy volume needs to show up.
Negative only comes into play if price confirms below the lower blue line IMO.
Let's see how price closes today and sets up for next week.

Green Trades.

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Bravo.

Something to keep in mind. IMO, Motley Fool put forth their article to tout and direct buying to their publications and money making subscriptions. There is so much they didn't cover and what they did was essentially negative. Other than maybe something I own gets a little boost from an MF article I haven't paid attention to them for investment advice in years and years. Anyone investing in this space should do their own indepth DD and have a firm grasp of all the dynamics and fundamentals, while evaluating their own risk. Emerging technologies always have bumps and hurdles.

Both articles ignore technical analysis as a vehicle to reduce risk or even create no cost shares, by trading around a core position.

The articles also don't address the financial commitments these companies have. JOBY for example has between current cash and commitments a total of over $1.3billion. They don't even mention the DoD market or foreign market opportunities.

MF wants followers and to be your advisor. Readers need to separate substance from salesmanship. Wheat from chaff.

Example: I live 55 miles from a major airport. With no traffic delays it takes 1 hour to get to the airport. JOBY from our small airport would substantially beat my drive time let alone parking time and parking fees hands down.

Green Trades.

Seems like multiple articles on eVTOL everyday. A lot of anticipation for manifestation into a massive success or an absolute failure. However it plays out, this is a massive financial opportunity!

Joby Aviation Stock: Buy, Sell, or Hold?
Hard Truth Investors in eVTOL Stocks Joby and Archer Aviation Can't Ignore

No, however there was/is full information on stockcharts for all time frames on Thursday the 23rd.
Guessing some sort of data disruption for Ihub.

Anyone know why IHUB showing flat line for Joby 1/23/25? Showing no results.

Breakdown of top institutional investors of JOBY and ACHR

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Don’t know how much water this article holds but I love reading them. 

https://www.tipranks.com/news/joby-aviation-joby-set-to-transform-urban-air-mobility-in-2025

Very informative, indeed. All of the comments.

I just did some research n the FAA database and saw Lilium commented in a number of regulatory filings. Lilium went belly up? In December. But they were no where near JOBY or ACHR’s regulatory approvals. They had a long way to go.

So JOBY and ACHR are really the last two standing? Leaders in the EVTOL market?

Thanks for all the great thoughts and comments. [Posting on ACHR board as well.]

I get your points. However IMO there is airspace available. No runway needed. Can land from any direction.eVTOL terminals will not be interfering with commercial aircraft terminals. Altitude will not infringe on airport patterns. Noise reduction anytime they are operating. The need for non-polluting transportation will fuel the need. Many DoD needs. Border patrol movement. Usage viability in Middle Eastern countries is already in process. Sure there will be issues to navigate. However, need is always the driver of success. You mention fuel, insurance and maintenance. Are you sure eVTOL costs will be equal or greater. If gov wants this, the lanes will be priced to allow pathways. No need for eVTOL's to have the kind of spatial separation as aircraft.
Just a sample of the issues that will be worked out and situational advantages of eVTOL transportation.

It's nice to see opinions from someone who is a professional in the field, but it might be a little short sighted. Everyday more people and more cars, just from a general overview of the next 20 years something has to give. I'm in my mid 50's and I don't really seeing an air infrastructure in place in my lifetime but definitely in my 12 year old daughters lifetime. Not a question of if but when. I would hold your shares in whatever company you want in this sector, no where to go but up. 

I just posted this at ACHR and it is relevent here as well:

So, I made a mistake. I bought a few shares, not much, and made a few bucks and sold. I forgot I had a buy order in at a lower price that I forgot to cancel and it executed. Dang. And now I am in it and losing a few bucks as I write this.

I am a private pilot and love the aviation world. I have known a couple of people in the aviation business and one time, when I was considering doing a small business venture with someone, I got the best advice from someone about it. He told me this: “If you want to make a small fortune in aviation, start with a large one!”

I believe these air taxi’s have limited income potential. John Doe’s will never be able to afford them and there are only so many millionaires out there that will. They will be a novelty for some time but eventually, they will be for the rich. And that market will be limited. Just like private air travel. I used to own a single engine plane and that field of aviation is dying because of cost. All of my pilot friend have almost, but not quite, quit flying. Why? Because a flight in their lanes cost at least 5x’s more than commercial. Not kidding. Fuel, insurance, maintenance. Yes, it is more fun and convenient. But. The money is ridiculous.

So, I will wait it out and when Archer and Joby get some good FAA news, I think we shall see a significant rise from where we are right now, and then I think many people will get out.

Maybe just venting at my stupidity, but these are my thoughts.

yes,there is room for not only these 2 companies,but many others too. This Drone/Evtol/Aerodefense sector has lots of room for many players to succeed,as its still in its infancy and fast evolving. Excited about this group to do really well.

https://www.marketbeat.com/instant-alerts/joby-aviation-nysejoby-trading-14-higher-still-a-buy-2025-01-17/
I know it's stock tabloid but the news is positive. 

So far there is room for both IMO. Not really direct 1 to 1 competition yet IMO.
JOBY has more actual prototypes being tested and is further along in full certification process. Personally, I don't want a merger of the two. For JOBY, as long as continuing funding is solid, I would rather see them grow organically. Just my preference for bigger price multiples.

I agree, but I wouldn't be opposed to a buy out from Boeing or a merger with Archer. We got skin in the game on the ground floor so either way this will be good investment for the future. 

Anyone watching (or invested in) both $JOBY and A*HR should be able to tell that A*HR controls this sector. $JOBY just follows it up and down like it's subservient. It's annoying!!! Need some news on progress of final phase of FAA cert, Japan, Delta, South Korea, and/or Dubai taxi hub. Better sooner than later with Boeing and others sniffing around!!! First to market is key!
Doesn't help the case that insiders keep selling more shares than they actually bought, while A*HR's insiders bought about 6X than they sold.

All of the attention this sector has been getting by the talking heads is a good sign. Speaks to relevancy. They'll start praising once they get their fill of cheapies. They're using the same playbook.

Ironic that so many are looking for the next huge winner and yet have no guts to buy disruptive technologies in their infancy. JOBY is still maintaining its lead in first to fully flight certify, has solid financial backing. Will it be the biggest winner? Hard to say for sure. IMO they will have a significant market share in a $multibillion sector.
Nothing beats deep DD and comparison DD. To buy without it is gambling.
Also, nothing says one can't hold or trade more than one stock in a sector. Lots of opportunity to invest/trade emerging technologies.

Green Trades.

This has become such a cliche on these boards, but good buying opportunity. Already working out with the couple hundred I added on both.

I think it's just too valuable at this level to sell knowing the future of this emerging market. 

It's obvious A*HR controls this sector. No discernible reason for $JOBY to continue dropping except but to trace A*HR price movements.

Whatever dude.

Here is what the internet concludes

"Reasons Insiders Sell Stock"

There are multiple reasons why insiders may sell company stock, and it’s important to understand the reasons for these sales before letting them impact your own decisions. According to a study conducted by the University of Oulu in Finland, the most common reason an insider may sell shares is diversification. When an insider’s net worth becomes overly concentrated in company stock, it may be time to trim. The Oulu study also found that insiders with highly concentrated portfolios “have a higher propensity to sell their insider stocks” and “sell in larger trade sizes than insiders with less unbalanced portfolios.”

JOBY !! NOT GOOD INSIDERS SELLING BIG !! That tells me they believe !! Are the fires close by ? good luck .....

Imagine what happens when news of final cert comes out. Wow! To the moon Alice!!!

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/joby-aviation-electric-air-taxi-begins-final-phase-of-faa-certification-program/

JOBY, new 52 week highh

Great day! Let's keep this as the new base, blue skies ahead! 

So far JOBY and ACHR have both been able to stay cash positive. Toyota and DOD have provided continuing funding with Toyota at the conclusion of the next promised $300million right at $1billion in investment. JOBY is already delivering on their DOD contracts. It is just a matter of ramping up production and how they go about it. The unknown for this sector will be supply chain issues that may or may not have an effect on JOBY deliveries. There is no question in available market for contracts. All IMO only.


Everyone should do their own DD. Investigating cash on hand, cash expected and burn rate should be a part of everyone's DD.

Green Trading Everyone.

Sector took another hit today. I wonder if and/or how news like this effects the overall sentiment.

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This eVTOL Startup Has Filed for Bankruptcy
The promised air taxi future appears to be slowly giving way to a robotaxi reality, but some investors remain confident.
By Jay RameyPublished: Jan 02, 2025 10:56 AM EST

Germany's Volocopter has entered insolvency proceedings in its home country after a number of successful prototype demos in recent months.
The startup's craft uses a large number of individual propellers arranged around an overhead ring structure, as in a hobby drone, while featuring a small helicopter-style cabin.
Air taxis in development are now thought to see a serious challenge from robotaxis, as driverless car tech spreads and becomes more affordable to scale.

As the eVTOL industry approaches a moment of truth, and a growing robotaxi market, those that have made it this far are now facing a difficult transition period.

Days after German eVTOL startup Lilium was able to find new investors to save itself at the last minute, another German eVTOL startup, Volocopter, has filed for insolvency proceedings.

"With one of the lowest burn rates in the industry, Volocopter has successfully operated in an extremely difficult financial environment," the company said in a statement. "However, despite recent intensive fundraising efforts, finding a viable solution to maintain regular operations outside of insolvency proceedings has not been possible." ...
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a63322209/volocopter-evtol-startup-bankrupt/

This news goes back to June of this year. Just refreshing forgetful minds. 😃

https://www.fastcompany.com/91135038/joby-aviation-buys-xwing-autonomous-tech-us-defense-contracts

I really like Joby profits 2026 ?

Successful flight is another positive step forward.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/joby-aviation-completes-successful-air-145049735.html

South Korea getting in now!

Gov't to conduct flight demonstration of commercial-level air taxi model this week
Story by Chang Dong-woo • 54m • 1 min read

SEOUL, Dec. 13 (Yonhap) -- The transport ministry said Friday it will conduct a flight demonstration of a commercial-level air taxi model this week as part of a government project to introduce the urban air mobility (UAM) industry in the country.

The ministry will demonstrate the operation of the S-4 model built by U.S. electric aircraft manufacturer Joby Aviation Inc. at the Korea Aerospace Research Institute's aviation center in Goheung, about 330 kilometers south of Seoul, on Saturday.

The demonstration is part of the K-UAM Grand Challenge, a government-led demonstration program that will test UAM vehicle safety and traffic management capabilities for commercial services.

The deployment of the S-4, capable of carrying a pilot and up to four passengers, will mark the first use of a commercial-level UAM aircraft in the country.

The demonstration will include testing with UAM operational technologies, such as those involving flight management and air traffic, developed by a consortium formed by SK Telecom Co., Korea Airports Corp. and Hanwha Systems Co.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gov-t-to-conduct-flight-demonstration-of-commercial-level-air-taxi-model-this-week/ar-AA1vLu1o?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=ba01ece5b99b4ad98c4fbf5d2b5f809b&ei=118

7.50's hit today. Do the midlines hold or fold? Closing today and tomorrow will provide more info on that.

Reset 

Could be. Depends on whether the midlines offer support or rollover and become resistance. If the fast ema's negatively stack downward as 4 is now attempting to down cross the 8 then that will weigh on price for further down. If that happens then 6.50ish comes into play. VbP says that price has entered a weak market structure zone. More data needed but targets are very useful if one is flexible.
Biggest question right now is whether 7.40's-7.50's hold as support.

Green Trades.

Look for a good entry point 7.3 to 7.6 possibly

Previously advertised as $200M, now up'ed to $300M. Let's see how far it free falls!

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Buy and hold would be my recommendation

You're totally right, I thought of that before I posted that it was mostly fluff. But yea this is a keeper, I'm planning on a 5 year hold at least. 

Decent info on JOBY however using it to pump 10 other "Fool" high priced stocks is just using JOBY as a shill to bait and switch.