Zivo Bioscience Inc (QB) (ZIVO) 銘柄情報

This says there are 3,535,134 shares outstanding as of 10/17/24...after this 169,022 issued.

Per last filed 10q ending 6/30/24, there were 3,319,032 o/s...implying, sometime between 7/1/24 and 8/22/24 (date this 8-k starts)...they sold another 47,080 shares that are unreported somehow?

3,535,134 - 169,022 = 3,366,112 - 3,319,032 = 47,080

New 8K filed after the close late today.

https://ir.zivobioscience.com/sec-filings-email/content/0001654954-24-013107/zivo_8k.htm

Just sez they been selling stock totalling 169K shares from late August (around news) to this week at various prices but averaging $10.44 over the period. So basically raised total of $1.7+ million over last 6 weeks .... all while the stock has been steady rising. All that is restricted and can't be sold for at least 6 months and of course we've seen company CEO buy as well.

Well I guess they are getting the money they need for the time being.

Be interesting to know if they have been in contact with Armistice about their warrants. Another reason I think important for stock to stay above $20 from here on out. No looking back!!!! 😁

Amigo Mike

Some interesting "runs" in the market this past week.

I especially like the run in DRUG ... basically from nothing to $70 in a week. Has about a million more shares out than ZIVO presently.
Unexplained run up. Then just announced a big raise ....... LOL.

Anything can .... and is happening in this market. Unfortunately ZIVO back on OTC so this cuts off many potential investors ...... but hey ..... ZIVO signs that license .... all bets are off as to what the stock price does.

I'll reiterate .... $20 is just getting the stock almost back to historical valuation from prior to when the first botched coccidiosis test happened. ZIVO lost more than 18 months on that fiasco ...... but Today we have 2 subsequent positive confirmatory tests on coccidiosis, 1 by a major animal pharma and showing the full potential of the coccidiosis candidate in broiler chickens. Insiders have seeming given the middle finger salute to Wall Street and appear to be funding the company with stock purchases at increasing prices. Do we see more today ? Smells of a level of confidence that a license deal happens.

C'mon Payne ....... BRING IT HOME !!! Coccidiosis license = greater than $50 on this stock .... IMO.
Amigo Mike

Gwinner,

I was pretty sure that $20 was going to be a bit of a battle.

Over the years ... the $10 mark and the $20 mark always seem to be "psychological" barriers with stocks. There is no real reason for but those numbers more or less provide some legitimacy to a ticker. Ya know ? Like reaching double digit price ($10). Like ZIVO at $20 per share ... or ZIVO 60 cents a share ? Which one would you look at or even consider looking at first ? And which one would you talk about with you friends ?? I have seen many a stock ... on the move .... get stopped in its tracks with these round numbers. But if the company has the "goods" then these number mean zero.

Anyway .... Not really shocked at battle around $20 ... was hoping that battle would happen at $25 and then settle in above $20 waiting on the next news .... but whatever.

Again I can't blame anyone for wanting to take some off the table. But I almost never agree with showing big numbers like this morning on the offer. And I let winners bleed out I don't stomp on them.

I wonder if insider buys at discounted prices has some people spooked. But the fact is ..... I'm sure that prices being paid are some standard average price of the stock over the last couple weeks. I don't think people are understanding the level of confidence this portrays considering where the company has been. John Payne has never bought this stock until this week. Warrant coverage "tiny". An investment bank would be raping ZIVO with warrants and fees and the stock price would certainly take a hit. This stock is restricted and may never see the open market. So nothing being added to the trading float. And if insiders buying at those prices, like I said .... I don't think they are pissing money into the wind for show and surely they think it's work more than that.

So .... we wait ........
And Ihub tale of the tape shows the BUYS overwhelmingly dominating the activity. Almost all of the 3500 shares so far has been posted to the then current offer.
4200 shares presently offered @ $20. Dumb move as it relates to showing that much size ... but that's just my opinion.

Amigo Mike

Amigo, I missed the Yaldoo purchase...interesting the insiders are buying in THIS week.

Seems like they want to keep the price at 20...
GTSM seems to be holding a bunch

The CEO buying $100k worth of stock was great news! Hope he keeps buying more!
Wouldn't surprise me that we break through the wall of 20's though...News usually follows up price movement.

Gobble gobble !!

Just sayin'. Someone obviously been buying and apparently still buying. Insiders buying and putting own money at risk.
Seems someone thinks prices are still going higher.

Amigo Mike

LOL,

So who selling all the size at the open this morning?? Funny when that is more than a whole day worth of activity.
1000 shares went off at 21.25 already.

Oh well .... given the action ... I would expect that it gets eaten up .... just a matter of what price.
Amigo Mike

Another insider buy posted last night .....

...... Yaldoo buying over 3100 shares at 15.96. Roughly 50K in cash. 10% warrant coverage.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1101026/000164107324000004/xslF345X05/primary_doc.xml

Amigo Mike

Almost all sells into the bid so far today.

Amigo Mike

Thanks Algaeboy,

Ya ..... industry needs the natural treatment options ZIVO brings to the table. Poultry industry for sure. BUT .... the kicker ..... poultry isn't the only industry this product candidate could be effective against. Coccidiosis isn't only poultry. And pretty sure there are others very closely related. ZIVO already did mastitis tests in dairy cows for which there were indications of effectiveness against mastitis and other issues. The current product candidate is more refined so I would certainly like to see Zoetis or any other animal pharma bring that back to the forefront.

And yeah was thinking about where some long term holders average cost might be. I would not expect many have old 9 cents shares. Even 9 cents pre splits .... 1 for 80 and then another 1 for 6 .... 9 cents post splits is $43.20 ... yikes !! So still plenty of upside needed to get back to even for those with some of the best presplit prices. Old 25 cents purchases would be $120 ...... yowwwiiiiieeeeeee !!!

Amigo Mike

Sure, don't disagree with a word you've stated.

But, in spite of "recent news" possibilities...the fact remains...I remember the last 20 years. lol

I will reserve my "investor" status for such a time they SHOW it to be "investable". And that's just my opinion. 😀

Weasel,

I get it .... but if you think this is a $50 or $100 stock ...... or higher .... or whatever price you wanna put on it ...... you buy it within the constraints of your pocket book and risk tolerance. Bound to be ups and downs. That is of course how the market works.

This stock has been no more than a "trade" for years ..... not "investable" that I've stated many times. "Trade" mentality needs liquidity. This stock ..... MAY .... be on the verge of being an "investment" instead of a trade which in my book .... makes liquidity less of a concern.

My own case in point, I entered what I own now as not more than a swing trade last November at the lows. I bleed out some shares ... more than enough to cover cost and have more play money at the $12 area on the initial rise. I have been standing pat since. After the last news, my opinion is not of the "swing trade" mentality. So I am looking at a longer term horizon and potential prices at this point.

I doubt there are many people with size positions after what has transpired the last couple years that included 2 RS. So trading is relative to position size and how many shares there really are to trade. We know there are big positions held by insiders and those close to them ...... that aren't going to be sold any time soon.

So I agree with the liquidity concern ... but at same time that is more of a "traders" concern vs an "investors" concern. Folks need to decide where they are at and it'll certainly take ZIVO landing a license to move more people into the "investors" category.

Amigo Mike

Definitely holding… Will consider selling a little bit, if the pre-split price reaches .09… Right now it’s sitting at less than .05, and based on the last report, I’m willing to hang on to most of my 600+ shares… For all of the things this company has done over the years that I’ve never understood, like you and so many other longtime shareholders, the reality is, the algae works, and the poultry industry is DESPERATE for natural applications/options that ZIVO may have to offer sooner than later.

Even with this Payne news...the problem for me is still the same...liquidity.

Just impossible to enter, size and keep risk 'somewhat' in check with current liquidity environment. So tough. 🥹

No problem,

I forgot to ask where your mind is right now ?

Buying ?
Selling ?
Holding ?

I of course don't know if you have been following the Weasel/Amigo swing trading mindset all these years so don't know how you have protected yourself over the years with this stock ....... buy what are you thinking presently ? I like to hear what other shareholders are thinking. I've been hearing from some old time ZIVO investors in last couple weeks ..... they are very intrigued by the recent news and almost all of them are thinking ZIVO lands that license. Not to mention being very pleased with the stock action .... although many of them haven't subscribed to the Weasel/Amigo methodology and are still largely underwater.

Amigo Mike

VERY helpful answer to my question, and as always, thank you!!

THANK YOU MIKE AND WEAZEL!!… as usual, your answers to my questions are very helpful

Hi Algaeboy,

Glad to see you are still here.

I think Weasel summed it up pretty well explaining typical raises.
As Weasel said 99% of the time companies like ZIVO that are raising money with typical Wall Street investment banks are having to added warrants to purchase more stock in the event the company is successful. Weasel gave the typical range of warrant coverage ..... and you can reference both the Maxim raise (100%) and the Armistice raise (200%) for past ZIVO ripoffs. Typically the % of added candy is relative to how dire the situation is for the company.

@Weasel ..... I know you loved Dahl ... LOL ....

Anyway why do I go hmmmmmmmm ....
Payne has never been a buyer of the company stock. The shares he has were shares from expiring options/warrants if I recall correct.
He's buying at the highest prices this company has seen literally in years
Only 10% candy which is frankly ... pretty rare to be that low.
To me it spells ..... C O N F I D E N C E !!!!!!! You know the saying .... money talks ....... you know the rest.

And as I look at it ..... it appears that all the funding ZIVO has been doing since last year is all by ZIVO insiders and those close to them. A couple benefits there. 1 ... just mentioned ..... confidence. It is there own money. You don't put your own money at risk unless you are confident that you will make money. And they did it in the company's darkest days.
2 ... They are still buying .... and any of those new shares ARE NOT GOING TO BE HITTING THE MARKET ANYTIME SOON. Not used for pump and dump schemes and screwing around with the stock price like what would happen with your typical raise. Those shares are going into iron fists.
3 ... I think they have told Wall Street to go ..... F&*( themselves. Another sign of confidence. And I applaud it.

If you've been following .... especially since the August announcement, I am VERY optimistic ... but yet cautious still given the history here .... that ZIVO has something brewing with a major animal pharma here. I think the last test results are the clincher and smartly done by the animal pharma. It is a matter of time IMO before that or another animal pharma wants to license the coccidiosis product candidate.

And I have already asserted that I'd like to see a license with the animal pharma to include an equity component of 1 or 200,000 shares. It does multiple things .... but besides additional liquidity, skin in the game, confidence in success of the product and participation in ZIVO's success ... and again ... shares that would be held with iron fists and not subject to Wall Street screwing around.

We just need to have the balls to hold on to see what happens and evaluate the activity as it happens.

Amigo Mike

Company raises are typically done at a discount (sometimes significant) to current market pricing. Company's must do this as they are literal shitco's with nary a prospect. (This is the fear I had of the path ZIVO was going down when they announced the second offering last year with Armistice).

Given company has no prospects, it needs to entice prospective clients with additional 'candy' (ie- warrants) of shares beyond what they are purchasing. This helps protect their downside as it gives them "more bang for their buck"...and radically increases the chances of upside on any small push of price.

MOST shitco's must offer from 50%-200% warrant coverage to get funding. So, if firm bought 1,000,000 shares...they would get anywhere from 500k-2 million warrants.

The fact that Dahl only took 10% implies a level of confidence that 'some' positive ending is not far off. As that is a small small price to pay for funding.

High level overview, but this is it in a nutshell.

Hey Mike,

Hoping that you, or someone could explain why the 10% warrant coverage of JP’s share purchase would make you go hmmmm…, And make you, assuming I’m interpreting this correctly, cautiously optimistic.

Yes,

Payne has very few shares directly owned .... so very interesting to me ... this purchase .....but .....
Provided a $1 million loan early last year to keep the company going through the first animal pharma fiasco.
I believe he has a fairly sizable number of stock options / warrants ... around 140,000+ ish.

So Payne been putting his own money at risk and adds more into the mix.

If insiders are going to start buying stock ... in essence funding the company in the interim ....... at prices above $15 ...... I would have to think they are quite confident in the company's future prospects. And only 10% warrant coverage ...... that is very interesting to me as well and should be for all shareholders. I don't think he would be buying for window dressing ....... or to toss that money into the wind.

Hmmmmmmmm .........

Amigo Mike

Hmmm.... 🤔🤔🤔

Definitely, interesting.

PS- it's wild to me that the CEO only has direct ownership of 7909 shares (not counting warrants) after a 6343 purchase though. lol

UM ..... Insider buy just posted for ZIVO CEO.

https://ir.zivobioscience.com/sec-filings-email/content/0001654954-24-013034/section16.html

Payne bought 6300 shares for 15.76 with only 10% warrant coverage at the same price or so it appears.

IMO that is very positive. And would not shock me to see more of it.

Yes we know ZIVO is likely short on cash. More or less it continues to look like ZIVO giving middle finger salute to Wall Street and their bullshit games and more or less self funding the company until they can get a deal done .... or take the next step. Only 10% warrant coverage too ...... hmmmmmm.

The insider confidence level must be increasing and this looks to me to be beneficial to all shareholders.

Amigo Mike

Volume above average again. Been that way for last 6 to 7 trading days.

Once again the tail of tape shows more than 3 to 1 buys over sells. This info from the IHUB trades list. Someone is sitting on the $20 area selling stock. No question.

The volume is very similar to that of the volume shortly after the August coccidiosis news. Maybe those buyers are unloading a bit. Again can't blame anyone for selling given the run.

Offer was dropped to $20 mid afternoon. And 2000+ shares bought there on the offer. So someone is still buying.

I'm with Gwinner. I think there are things percolating at ZIVO and 1 of those animal pharmas wants to dance !!

Amigo Mike

Running out of steam. Would be great if contracted IR did their job. One amateur hour freebie online event with a muttering CEO got us this far . Imagine if there were well planned professional outreach events.

Weasel, there stocks that we OWN and stocks we watch. I betcha a coke alot of people who bought at higher prices or maybe sold at a loss STILL have ZIVO on there watch screens. I know I did for years before I plowed in. Yes, you are right Zivo gets terrible grades for not communicating but the stock price has been communicating to us by its run up from .42 to 20.36

Obviously, something is brewing and something positive is happening behind the curtain. It would be nice if the stock is closer to 30 before the curtain opens for our next leg up to 50-60 imo

LOL.

Welp yeah ....... it is obvious their financial markets savvy is lacking. I am happy to consult .... LOL.
The world of the IBs these days ..... geez ... they are scumbags and more or less rape companies left and right.

But been doing this baby biotech thing for decades and have held baby bios that have signed licensing deals with major pharmas. All these big pharmas have "venture capital" subsidiaries. And I have seen many licenses signed that include not only the license but a sale of an equity stake in the baby bio. It happens and I think it would be a good move for ZIVO and for whomever the animal pharma is .... especially if it is one of the smaller ones.

Of course I don't wanna count my chickens (pun intended) before they are hatched ...... but a smell a license deal. I think it will happen, but have no way of determining when or how hot (or not) the animal pharmas involved here are for the coccidiosis candidate.

By my warped way of thinking ...... I would rather see ZIVO sign license with one of the majors in the top 10 but on the lower end of the top 10 vs that top 2 or 3. Everyone knows who the top 2 or 3 are. Elanco, Zoetis, Merck I believe are the top 3 worldwide. But I would characterize them as slow as molasses and loaded with corporate drag. While an animal pharma lower on the list may not have that kinda drag ...... and is hungry to gain market share and that is better for ZIVO. I would reference the relative swiftness surrounding the completion of the last 42 day confirmatory test and the almost instant (mere days) return of results. To me that says nimble and is excited by results. Based on my own experience in the baby bio game, that doesn't smell like Elanco, Zoetis or Merck to me. I obviously have no idea who did that test, surely could have been one of them. But we have experience with Zoetis in the past. They simply didn't provide answers that fast.

Plus the equity stake .... is foot in the door for more licensing ..... potentially more equity ..... and still further .... already own shares ..... for a buyout. And if by chance another animal or human pharma wants in or a buyout .... well ... that pharma might have something to say about it. =)

Just sayin'

Amigo Mike

Agree with most of this. Still will be curious to see how it gets done (assuming it does).

Not gonna lie tho...there was one thing you posted that made me literally chuckle...

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In addition .... IMO .....if ZIVO is smart 🤣😂🤣😂

Sorry, couldn't resist. 😛

Weasel,

I don't necessarily agree with MASSIVE dilution for the license. ZIVO should be carried to the commercial stage for the most part by the major animal pharma and be paid milestones along the way. But I don't think ZIVO will have huge expense here. ZIVO has already developed the product candidate. It is a matter of the animal pharma picking up the ball and running with it. And we are talking USDA pathway which was another big win .... not the silly ass FDA process at least for the US. I don't know if the license would be for USA .... or other parts of the world ... or the globe. IMO the value of the license has some dependency on the territory it covers. Would think European pathway simpler than US as well.

IF ..... IF by chance this thing does run to $50 ..... there are warrants outstanding that would bring in many millions of dollars.

Armistice ..... is $8.4 million on just less than 500K shares. Those warrants can't be cashless exercised. Armistice could walk away with alot of money on this if funding ZIVO. Personally I'd actually like to see ZIVO get Armistice to fund those 250K warrants for $4.2 million now and maybe a "standstill" or bleed out agreement =). They expire I believe in July next year. The rest expire in 3 more years. Hell ... Armistice could run this up the flagpole and short into it .... and cover shorts with new shares.

The public warrants are roughly $16 million to ZIVO for roughly 495K shares.

That's near $25 million in "financing" possible over the next 6 - 18 months.

In addition .... IMO ..... if ZIVO is smart, I personally think ZIVO should be asking the animal pharma to make an equity investment as part of a license deal. For example, how about sell the animal pharma 100,000 to 200,000 shares for no less than $20 or prevailing market price around the time the license is signed ...... on top of cash for license ...... animal pharma equity stake for $2-$4+ million more .... and they participate in ZIVO's (and their) success. Potentially $6-$10+ total million to ZIVO up front. And you know those shares aren't going anywhere either. =)

I think there are options.

The last 10Q said 3.3 million outstanding at August 9th.
1 million stock options from equity incentive programs those won't be exercise anytime soon.
661K unregistered warrants at prices all over the map. but ~500k of that is Armistice at 16.80.
495K from the public warrants at $33 each.

So the FD number is somewhere around 5.4-5.5 million presently. And dilution at prices greater than $20 are far less that what we are used to. I believe ZIVO has given the middle finger salute to the scumbag IBs of the world and been selling stock to insiders (as we've seen already) and to folks that believe in the story.

Amigo Mike

Mike- one thing I do not see you factoring into any of this is the possibility of MASSIVE dilution in order to 'facilitate' any type of license. Let's face it, ZIVO is running on fumes (if not out?) of cash...and any type of license is going to require significant capital investment to get it up and running...plus the issue of capital to maintain it.

While I realize it's feasible to get some monies upfront from a potential licensee, I can't imagine it being enough to facilitate all of this...therein requiring further dilution which would skew your numbers (ie- $20 today could be the same as $10 in the future if they doubled the share count...or best case, keeps price the same given the dilution in spite of license deal). <-- fwiw, this is just a random example, not exactly how/what I'm expecting per se.

Obviously, a straight buyout doesn't require any of this and just gives said share price amount to ZIVO and its shareholders.

Curious your thoughts...

Gwinner .......

..... with the stock now getting itself "righted" and back to near what would be more reasonable valuation ...... NOW is when you'd wanna start seeing new buyers step in and some "buzz" created around the stock. But as Weasel has been saying ..... ZIVO is bottom of the barrel when it comes to communications ..... and while it appears Payne is getting the job done and so far has done more in his 2 years than Dahl did in 10 ....... now is the time you want more eyes on it ..... with an understanding of the story .... the scarcity of shares .... many of which are undoubtedly locked up for the longer term .......

For now .... I'm the only "BUZZ" for this stock .... LOL.

But I don't see ZIVO stepping up with an improved communications outreach to new or existing investors. I posted that link to a meeting ZIVO had in August. That's one few times in DECADES that I've seen ZIVO do anything like that. One reason is they have no sponsorship or analyst following. The clown over at Maxim ... is just that ... .a clown and last downgraded ZIVO a while back. He should be talking to ZIVO and pounding the table buy on it. But no one would listen to him anyway. LOL And I doubt ZIVO wants anything to do with those scumbags for what they did. So that isn't likely happening. I don't see them paying for a writeup ..... and that money would likely just go down the drain. So ..... we are going to have to wait.

I do agree with you that I think there could be those friends of insiders that might be driving this move. I can tell you investors I have contact with think this is at least $50 with a license .... and as you know I've been just commenting on it just getting back to historical value .... if you add the latest news ... I think it is worth north of $30 and with a license for coccidiosis in poultry ..... at least $50. $50 at 3.5 million shares (non diluted) is only $175 million market cap.

It's just a matter of major animal pharma asking ZIVO to the dance for the first step !!!!

Amigo Mike

Cool. What does any of this have to do with the topic of you "being shocked there aren't a bunch of new posters"...which was what my response was about???

ZIVO
.48 cents to $20.21 (52 week chart)
Thats a VERY sexy chart imo
I am VERY GREEN at the moment and don't plan to sell until the FULL story is told
Ive seen this with other stocks (and it doesn't matter what exchange they are on) that when the stock lifts with NO news then the people in the "know" are quietly scooping shares and until everything is sealed and wrapped and a pretty bow on top...
I was a recent buyer at 13 but my average WAY lower...I still feel we have MORE to run

Gwinner...and pray tell...exactly how are these "new posters" supposed to even know about ZIVO and/or what they have going on when then company themselves never even tells anyone???

THESE ARE THE FACTS:
- ZIVO is currently a turd ticker listed on the OTCBB (ie- very little folk even pay attention to OTC anymore given how hot/easy listed small caps are).
- The ONLY people that know about this company are folks that either a) are long-time folk who have known about ZIVO forever (ie- myself, Amigo and a few others) or b) folks sucked in during the uplist euphoric rises.
- Unless/until ZIVO actually CONFIRMS what is going on...while it may be a very accurate synopsis (I agree with everything Mike has said about company and where it 'could' be going)...it's all conjecture until we hear official word.

So, while the buying has certainly been consistent/relentless for a few weeks...I just find it hard to believe it's due to a bunch of 'new eyes' on the company...especially given how low the overall volume has been. It's likely a handful of folks close to those in the know.

Gwinner,

We've definitely had buyers ....... albeit as Weazel points out ..... volume is pretty low ..... but for the most part shareholders are holding tight.
I don't know exactly what the float of free trading shares is ...... but I have to believe it is 1 million or fewer shares. So the volume is relative to the number of shares available for trading. And of course we are not on Nasdaq any longer so less eyes on the OTC.

That said ...... buyer has given no indication of slowing down.

As to news soon ..... I just don't think there is any way to ascertain that unless ZIVO comes out and talks about it. The last confirmatory test ... IMO .... was completed and results reported in record time ...... and I mean superfast. So whoever that animal pharma is, they wanted the test done and results fast. I'd like to think they are as impressed with the results as us shareholders ...... and act with the same speed to move to licensing discussion. Of course then you get into lawyers and all that stuff ..... which ..... no matter what ....... takes time. I would anticipate licensing framework is fairly standard in the industry so it would be matter of money and how responsible for what. So it's a huge guess as to when the next news is but I am a firm believer that someone knows something and is willing to buy the stock ..... and ..... continue to buy the stock which means ..... they think it will go higher .... as that's the only reason to buy it right ? =)

Almost 500 share buy near the open .... but then MM drops the ask .... LOL. Funny.

Amigo Mike

I agree Amigo!
I would have thought we would have seen some new posters by now...but who knows they could be reading and gathering their own consensus about Zivo.
I also agree that we potentially are on the cusp have having a revolutionary break-through product that will land on the main stage soon. Chicken problems need solved by natural ingredients as the poultry industry is quickly realizing the chickens are becoming immune to the injected/ingested antibiotics.

This past 2 weeks we have had someone or a small group quietly buying a nice size position. Really makes me feel like we shall have news soon.

No posts since Friday.

Is everyone stunned ...... or gone ???? =)

Rechecking some basic chart study over the weekend. Going back 4 years, as noted previous, the $25 area has basically been the lid on the stock (save a quick pump and dump after the raise) ...... starting from and subsequent to the disasterous uplist, raise and RS fiasco. So as I've been saying ..... at least $20 ...... and $25 is the multi year resistance line just to get back to some historical values. Ideally this move continues up to test the $25 area. But we are at overbought territory on daily and weekly charts.

The fun thing .... above $25 .... there is ZERO resistance to roughly the $53ish area which is the bottoms for the stock prior to the uplist, raise and RS.
If you remember the stock more or less got a 50% buzzcut that day.

There has to be at least 1 major animal pharma circling here. The information provided by ZIVO makes it sound like a 2nd is in play. 2 of the last 3 confirmatory tests were done by major animal pharmas (1 disaster by animal pharma, 1 "reconfirm it" by ZIVO, the latest stellar by animal pharma). I am all for an auction scenario for the first license and I wonder what else these pharmas might look at .... up to ... and including a buyout. There are so many verticals possible with this in both animal and human health. Drugs and nutraceuticals. Food and beverage. Cosmetics, skincare. Sell it for anything above $100 a share.

I like the idea of landing that first license now ..... having the animal pharma get themselves acquainted with the product and the potential other verticals ...... and buying out ZIVO within a year to have it all and to monetize it. Remember that this has previously been characterized as a new discovery. And given the verticals ..... what's it worth eh ? I've used the "B" word before. =)

Let's see how it plays.

Amigo Mike

DING DING DING !!!!!

Personally I think it need to "pop" here straight to $25 .... and then settle above $20.

....... oh wait ..... just dreamin !!
💤🤣

Amigo Mike

Gwinner-

it's all relative to where you've been and where you're going. When someone/a trader pulls up ZIVO chart...and sees how far it's come on LITERALLY non-existent volume...there is nothing here that says "buy me".

You need ACTUAL, TANGIBLE news at this point to justify any type of 'mass' buying.

I'm sorry, but a few hundred to a few thousand shares per day is not something one would get 'warm fuzzies' about jumping in and their prospects. As I've said, the liquidity is a major major issue with being on otc. You could be at $20 in the morning and back at $10 in the afternoon with ONE seller getting panicked and selling 5k shares...

NOT ideal.

To reiterate what I've said before, sure, getting legit news and them FINALLY delivering would be/will be nice. Even NICER imo, would be liquidity returning where you can CONFIDENTLY/PROPERLY trade this with some amount of conviction. While yes the trend is clear, it's still all guessing games...

Yeah, I'm guessing there are a decent amount of shares in the low twenties to be had for someone to build to there pile

LOL,

I get what you are saying but there is no "MOMO" here. That is all volume and price action and usually event based. This is OTC now and as Weasel has been pointing out, you cannot easily get in and out of trades with the volume.

Also there's been no big "announcement" (depending on how you look at it) .... or deals with big boys to attract any MOMO attention.

As I've been saying .... in essence this is just reversion to prior valuations after being driven into the ground last year. Even though news is better than once could expect at this point, the stock IMO ... is just "recovering" to a minimum of where it should be at this point in time.

We do need to crack that $20 mark and hold it since we are here. Then opens door to many possibilities for next moves when the news we all want finally comes to fruition.

Who gonna break down that wall ????? Lotsa possibilities for what happens next.

Amigo Mike

Its funny, ZIVO goes way down and we have a half a dozen posters. Now that the stock has quadruple from a year ago all I hear is crickets (Except Amigo).

Usually, this kind of movement attracts momo players to jump in and rally it further but this stock seems to keep climbing on further silence from the company as well as investors. You would think this would be heading certain charts of other threads/boards etc.

Long Zivo and longing for a Motherload of newz to hit!

90% buys 10% sells today.
Above average volume.

Only a matter of time if it keeps up.
Amigo Mike

MMs reloading offer to be able to push through $20.

I've seen this before for small stocks.
Bid has increased a bit but ask has increased to get thru $20 as well.

Guess we will see who wins out.
Amigo Mike

Gwinner,

Agree there is still buying support. The question is WHY.
ZIVO sucks in the communication dept and there are no timelines for investors to hang their hats on. So it's pretty open ended at the moment for next news. This action is not the norm for this stock.

That said, I've talked to a couple other very longtime ZIVO shareholders in recent days. They all agree that the latest test results paint a picture of what the animal pharma was looking to validate. They all agree that those results put an animal pharma in a very good position to improve on the full line of coccidiosis vaccines/therapeutics in the marketplace .... with the added bonus of developing all natural options. Some of the top 10 animal pharmas have full coccidiosis disease management programs. So the last results mirror a full program from soup to nuts. Gotta believe they move on these results. The ZIVO shareholders that I've talked to are standing firm .... and quite honestly ... chuckle at $20 ...... they are thinking much higher stock prices than $20. Given there are so few shares outstanding now ...... $20 is peanuts really for what commercialization in the coccidiosis market would mean. Plus coccidiosis is not only a problem in chickens ..... what happens if the animal pharma wants more verticals ? There are more potential verticals just with coccidiosis.

I am happy with the movement. Also happy that investors are pretty much holding strong. They deserve to participate in any upward movement in this stock after years of frustration and beatings ..... =).

Amigo Mike

The good news is the buyer(s) are still chipping away and modest support underneath...
Seems like the buying is constant with mid morning buying and end of day buying.

Feels like something is in the works and hopefully we hear soon...

LOL,

2500 shares traded already this morning .... only 200 shares sold into the bid ... the rest buys on the offer and still haven't cracked $20.
As I said ..... a psychological barrier that really shouldn't be and surely a place for a few games.

Should be fun to see what happens. IMO .... I think it needs to pop to through $20 and hold it.
Amigo Mike

LOL ..... i n c h i n g ..... closer ever so slowly northward.
MMs posting trades between the B/A most of the day but still appear to be mostly buys.

Time for ZIVO to blast past $20 !!!

Amigo Mike

Is today the day ZIVO cracks $20 ????

Very thin opening on the offer .... door is open ..... just a few hundred shares to $20 ....... if the current 100 share offers are real. Big if of course.

I think the ideal move here is to "pop" thru $20 on some volume ...... run to $25 and then rest ..... and potentially backtest $20 and hold. I can dream can't I ???? =) Of course new trumps all ..... unfortunately we have no idea of "when" with ZIVO.

And if they do land this licensing deal with a major animal pharma ..... my opinion is ...... the stock should be looking at the $40 - $50 range depending on a few things. $50 only puts the market cap based on current shares at around $165 million.

Amigo Mike