Humanigen Inc (CE) (HGEN) 銘柄情報

Shares don’t get canceled if there is to be a merger with those shares…penny stock 101.

Lenz will be great for Taran and probably save lives, but it ain’t going to save HGEN shareholder losses.

I'm actually shocked that some of you can't process the significance of the amended Asset Purchase Agreement, which increased the number of Milestone Events, as well as increased the payment amounts contingent upon accomplishing those Milestone Events.

Nor can I understand how many of you think we can remain in bankruptcy, if all creditor obligations are met.

Also, why are only the CAR-T patents assigned to Taran?

And why does the Taran analyst believe that Taran is positioned to respond to the next covid outbreak?

Does anyone think that the most likely way Taran can respond to the next covid outbreak is to merge with us, for the shell and non-covid IP rights?

Does anyone realize that if the results of our PREACH-M and RATinG studies are confirmed by the pending interim analysis, then lenz-treated patients could prove to be cured of cancer?

Has anyone heard that, "Nipah virus is an emerging zoonotic pathogen that causes severe febrile encephalitis resulting in death in 40% to 75% of human cases."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7088631/#:~:text=Nipah%20virus%20is%20an%20emerging,to%2075%25%20of%20human%20cases.

"How many small cap biotech management teams can manage to gain control of 65 - 90% of the shares they have issued? AND, get a hugely successful Phase III trial on a novel coronavirus completed within one year, while continuing their in-process trials on CMML, along with their companion trial on aGvHD, which, together, promise to eradicate several leukemias, and prevent stem cell transplant and CAR-T toxicities?" (It was worth asking that question again).

The dollar value of my Humanigen account is updated daily. Is a dollar value entered daily ahead of our pending mergers?

And have we, after all, resolved issues not only in regards to insurance payments in the bankruptcy case, but in the District Court case, as well? Just asking. It seems that management may be intent on taking legal action against Pieroni, if I'm reading things correctly, and as I have strongly felt was warranted.

There can’t, you can’t buy canceled shares, how would there be a short squeeze with no buying pressure from shares that no longer exist?

The only thing left for HGENQ old shareholders is the .000001 percent chance that Jay is right…so at least there is a chance lol.

How can there be a short squeeze if the shares have been canceled?

I mostly agree with points 1-6, which mean very little to us at this point.

The most accurate post you have made on this forum, and is 100% correct.

I still fully expect to see a short squeeze, whether that has been established by being bought out, or merged, or we come out of this bankruptcy while still in possession of our covid IP, and we change our name again, as we did when we were Kalobios.

I like what Geoff Winkler said about the people he and American Fiduciary co-Founder John Hall look for.

"Winkler’s is a trust-based business. His value is earned by reaching the most equitable decision for everyone, often without guidance from laws, so his employees must be able to work independently and be critical thinkers..."

https://willamette.edu/news/library/2021/07/geoff-winkler-story.html

Couple the selection of American Fiduciary, along with the fact information remains sealed in our District Court case, even though it appears the case has already been heard on Appeal, I interpret that as management vigorously demanding justice for Humanigen and the shareholders, however we may be defined. I would be glad, at no charge, to sanitize the database I developed for tracking Cede shares, and send that to management and to Geoff, if necessary. I just hope that it won't be necessary, and that we will prevail in capturing the benefit associated with the design of our share structure.

Contracts that has ill-will or illegal is INVALID and unenforceable. Gambling debts are unenforceable. your problem, not the gov't problem.

As for compensation to old hgenq shareholders, there is no legal obligation to pay anything to old shareholders and milestone payments it was stolen by fake creditors commitee but there is no way you can get anything from it.
basically ,the fake creditor committe which is controlled by Taran or management of hgenq ripped you off LEGALLY.

Shares of of former hgenq ticker halted.
1. The company management has cancelled the shares that were registered at the transfer agent
2. https://www.otcmarkets.com/corporate-services/premium-provider-directory/transfer-agents
3. To get listed in nasdaq, the company needs min. of 100 million in assets whereas OTC listing no min. in assets. The company just needs to transfer shares to transfer agent for trading or float
4. for people that used to own hgenq. the shares are 'cancelled' and cannot be traded.
5. some brokers charge nothing to have the shares removed.
6. there is no news from management if old share owners of the hgenq will get anythign of new shares.

As of now, only option is civil lawsuit against management and Taran and Dale for stock fraud in a 'civil case' As the bankrutcy case is now closing. and concluding. the hgenq as a entity no longer exist. the company has dissolved and as a result the shares are invalid and cancelled at the transfer agents books. and can never be allowed to trade again in any exchange, it's known as DEAD STOCK literally speaking

So no short squeeze like you have been posting about?

I think HGEN shares are canceled, by management's choice to liquidate, rather than to restructure.

However, I don't think there are any shares issued by the company that remain to be canceled. I suspect that we are still holding the covid and device patents, and that we are holding 5X the number of shares we had, collectively 595,400,675 shares, and that 238,160,270 of those shares will go to Sanofi and/or Novavax, as we announce a joint merger with them in a new entity.

I get frustrated with these bankruptcy filings because I suspect they are a waste of time. I think we will restructure, after all, and continue with our shell and resume listing, temporarily, on the OTC, before returning to Nasdaq.

Of course, this is contingent on regulatory approval of lenz to treat CMML, which will also result in meeting a bankruptcy Milestone Event, enabling management to meet all creditor obligations, and have this bankruptcy case discharged.

The shares have already been cancelled and Humanigen does not exist as a company/entity in any legal regard.

The reason shares still show in your brokerage account is in the event $ recouped is more than required to pay creditors, which would in turn provide shareholders with the additional. They will remain there until the bankruptcy is completely done and probably a little while after. In this case, no payout to shareholders is expected as they will more than likely just squeak by on paying creditors anything (if at all). This is outlined many times in the Chapter 11 Liquidation Plan.

Let me break this down the best I can.

Derivative action - This is the case filed by Chul Yang. Case # 2:23-cv-00235 which can be found here: https://www.pacermonitor.com/case/47490874/YANG_v_DURRANT_et_al

The "Claims"- is the essentially the objection filed by the committee which can be read through (kind of) on Page 12/58 of Docket 285 Section 30 here: https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentsbydocket/?docketId=1087413&projectCode=HUM&docketNumber=285&source=DM
Basically saying "Do not lift the stay, and please don't let Humanigen liquidate anymore policies because they will be unable to pay us at all. if you do let them, all of the money will go to fighting other cases which they are likely to lose, so we will have absolutely no recovery"

Then the Stay Relief Motion - Obsidian said "Hey....we have to pay those directors of humanigen otherwise they are all in trouble, and they have a right to defend themselves from the massive amounts of litigation aimed at them...so let us give them something" in Docket 216 found here: https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentsbydocket/?docketId=1073533&projectCode=HUM&docketNumber=216&source=DM

The section you are mentioning in Docket 320 is essentially trying to clear the management team of additional lawsuits by committee parties. Why would they add that? Because they have been very vocal about the potential to file claims against the management team personally and push the concept of criminality.

They are now using the policy meant to defend the management team in case of litigation to pay some of the creditors to get them to back off a bit.

Keep in mind the above mentioned items have no bearing on the SEC case against Dale which is heading for mediation (very standard for SEC cases) or Pieroni v Humanigen which has already been settled.

In mention of the omnibus, I don't personally think it matters at this stage. But I could be wrong.

In layman terms are the shares going to be cancelled or uncancelled? Thank You as I do not understand all of the legal jargon here.

Of course, you are correct, SG44. Thank you for the clarification.

As I noted earlier:

"AMENDED MEDIATION REFERRAL ORDER: The Clerk of Court shall terminate retired-Judge FAITH HOCHBERG as mediator in this matter. The parties are referred to private mediation before retired-Judge JOSE L. LINARES. The parties shall complete mediation on or before 9/30/2024."

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/52335094/SECURITIES_AND_EXCHANGE_COMMISSION_v_CHAPPELL_et_al

I got confused by this:

"J. The Parties wish to conclusively resolve all of their disputes and potential disputes
in connection with the Derivative Action, the Claims, the Stay Relief Motion, and otherwise,
without admission as to any claims or defenses, on the terms set forth below."

pg 21/32
https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentsbydocket/?docketId=1095423&projectCode=HUM&docketNumber=320&source=DM

So as far as the bankruptcy case, are we waiting for the omnibus hearing on 8/21/24, or is that moot at this point?

Two very important legal principles or concepts
1. Bankruptcy fraud is 'crime'
a. no intention of repaying debt or pay vendors.
b. intent to embezzle collateral assets and not repay creditors.
c. creditors are fake or fake lawsuits and fake debt to file for bankruptcy.

2. Contracts are invalid if
a. the contract was signed by duress or person signing the contract was a child or mental incapable.
b. contract had bad faith where by the criminal had criminal intent to decive and cause ill-will in the contract.
which is why all contracts are bind with hand shake.

All trades in the exchange can be cancelled if there was an error. if there was computer glitch or ' error', trades can be cancelled. those are the exhange rules. but must be reported immediately. No such thing as fat fingers. if there was a trading mistake. trades can be cancelled. by the broker or exchange. but must be notified immediately to broke or exchange.

I have to unpack this a little, but first in regard to your previous post about expenses.

I believe everyone here knows what an expense report is, which is why I didn't bother explaining it. What's relevant about the specific ones I mentioned is that they are final applications for compensation and not monthly/interim - which means this is all likely winding down. All of the companies I mentioned are well aware of the gamble they took, and always take when it comes to bankruptcy proceedings so we will see how it shakes out.

On to this post: suggesting the Liquidating Trust stole the assets is not correct. The whole purpose of the Liquidating Trust is in fact to...you guessed it....liquidate 🤯

This agreement is effectively turning an insurance policy into...wait for it ...liquid! So that the creditors can get paid something which is the entire purpose of Humanigen staying in Chapter 11 Liquidation and not moving to Chapter 7 as I have said many many times here.

You and I agree that the important assets were basically stolen by Durrant, but that has little to do with the Liquidating Trust and everything to do with how bankruptcy proceedings operate in general.

My question is, was the last filing to the bankruptcy court intended to notify the judge that mediation has resulted in the outstanding issues at the District Court level being resolved? That's how I interpret it, anyway (but I really had to force myself to try to understand the reason for the filing).

If by outstanding issues at the District Court level you mean the SEC case against Dale/entities: the answer is a hard no.

If you mean other pending cases against Humanigen the answer is maybe

Anyway. The purpose of Docket 330 is just the legal requirement stating there was no objection by the Liquidating Trust to Docket 320.

A couple of things. YOU are always the one trying to create the narrative saying Taran stole the IP. I disagree.

In the first place, I think they may only have the CAR-T IP.

Secondly, our first merger moves will be with Humanigen Australia, and with Taran. Either way, our new share structure will continue to be reflective of the value of ALL of our IP.

So, yes, "...something must be going on..." Besides, why steal what you already own?

one of the way theives justify stealing things is why pay for it when you can just take it or steal it and no criminal persecution. you stupid it or what. just take it and take off. it's same with people sleeping in the streets. why pay rent when you can sleep in city parks and streets for FREE. Same with food banks and welfare. why work. welfare is free money.

Taran paid nothing for your ip patent that you say has potential worth of 1 billion. It's like Taran bought lottery tickets for free. That sounds too good to be true, to be able to buy something that is worth 2 billion for nothing, don't you think. something must be going on or they stole it. why theives steal, why pay when you can get it for FREE, steal it.

"Only disciplined application of monoclonal antibody therapies has kept these numbers from being much larger."

Really? Were the MAB's on this list?

https://www.cms.gov/monoclonal

What, exactly, does "disciplined application" mean?

Specifically, does this refer to the IND use of the lenz cocktail administered with the Novavax and other protein-based vaccines?

"If I am right that the Appeals Court case was concluded, and that we are down to a private mediation at the District Court level, I hope that we can settle well before the deadline, and then enter into our restructuring agreements with our partners. I was pleased to see Geoff appointed as the receiver of the Black Horse assets after all the time he has put into this effort."

My question is, was the last filing to the bankruptcy court intended to notify the judge that mediation has resulted in the outstanding issues at the District Court level being resolved? That's how I interpret it, anyway (but I really had to force myself to try to understand the reason for the filing).

"J. The Parties wish to conclusively resolve all of their disputes and potential disputes
in connection with the Derivative Action, the Claims, the Stay Relief Motion, and otherwise,
without admission as to any claims or defenses, on the terms set forth below."

pg 9/20
https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentsbydocket/?docketId=1099674&projectCode=HUM&docketNumber=330&source=DM

I hope that I'm not misinterpreting the significance of this filing. I just don't know what else it could be, other than notice to the judge that mediation has been concluded at the District Court level.

It's hard for me to be objective, because I think a successful mediation outcome will allow us to enter into our partnership agreements with Sanofi and Novavax. If Geoff and management have determined our path, including whether to utilize Humanigen Australia, which I think is likely, I hope that results in shareholders having 5X the number of HGEN shares that we had, as lenz will be commercialized worldwide for CMML, aGvHD, as a covid therapeutic, and as a covid vaccine and CAR-T enhancement.

https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentsbydocket/?docketId=1099674&projectCode=HUM&docketNumber=330&source=DM

The liquidating trust has officially stole all the assets of humanigen and request that the court approve the transfer of assets to the fake claims and theives. thank you very much for your crime co-operation. this wholesale in your face robbery would not be possible without the support and co-operation of the gov't, court and SEC, and lawyers. and management

"Sanofi reports two operating segments: Biopharma and Opella (formerly Consumer Healthcare – CHC).
The Biopharma operating segment comprises commercial operations and research, development and production activities relating to the Speciality Care, General Medicines and Vaccines franchises, for all geographical territories. The segment’s results include the costs of global support functions that are not within the managerial responsibility of the Opella GBU.
The Opella operating segment comprises commercial operations relating to consumer healthcare products, and research, development and production activities and global support functions (as listed above) dedicated to the segment, for all geographical territories. The Opella GBU segment’s results reflect all incurred costs of global support functions attributable to its business."

see pg 45,
D.1.1. OPERATING SEGMENTS
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1121404/000112140424000016/exhibit992-2024halfyearman.htm

The Biopharma segment may be more geared to incorporating entities like Humanigen/Taran.

"...our merged entity could continue to use what will be the well-capitalized shell..." Who knows how likely that might be? But I think it's feasible.

I also think the merger partner name we may have to watch for is Opella. Are they going to put the 'O' in HOT?

"Opella (former Sanofi Consumer Healthcare) up 9.6%, driven by the Qunol acquisition."

4th bullet point
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1121404/000112140424000018/pressreleaseq22024english.htm

You know what happens to people who try to 'extort money' or bully people out of money with threats of lawsuit. they get murdered for extortion and that is what happens in many and reason people get murdered in gangs. gangsters forcing other gangsters to pay them money like tax money. they murder if you try to extort money from gangbangers.

These EXPENSE reports is mainly for the debtor as a company in 'bankruptcy' has to get court approval to spend any money.
Here is the reality, before the bankruptcy, the company had 2-3 million in cash and accounts receivables.
as of now, it has less than 300,000 in cash. so in company that is bankrupt and owes small vendors $2000 or $1000 and not paying bills, somehow it has spent $2 million in 'legals fees' to go bankrupt and not pay creditors a dime. is that justice? The company has no cash left and has no money to pay of it's lawyers. it cannot even pay any of it's employees, Why waste money in declaring bankruptcy. For most bankrupt companies, the owners just bail leave the country and don't bother with bankruptcy court. There is nothing the creditors can do if the owners of a company just takes all the money and sells everything and just close the doors and wire all the money out. But in this case, humanigen had and own assets it needed to transfer out. For the Dale, and the employees, they are just employees and not liable for anything same with employees. As for creditors who claim they are owe money. who cares, your problem of the 40 million 'claim' 95% of the money if fake claims and they didn't lose anything and humanigen owes these FAKE creditors claim nothing and should pay nothing and will not pay anything as the creditors are the 'criminals' in this case.

Dockets 325-329 now listed within Epiq archive. Each docket is a separate Final Application for Compensation from companies Anderson & Corroon, Epiq, Kikpatrick, WBD and Dundon (in no particular order).

I feel ya, dlog. I won't be doing any travel, either, as long as Social Security remains my sole source of income, and I can't supplement that with trading profits, as I was doing, until we had to change the track we were on.

But, to me, nothing I see indicates that our destination has changed. Still, I believe that we have never been stronger than we are now. And I can't over-emphasize what I see as the developing need for lenz. Consider evidence of that:

"The south Indian state of Kerala is battling an outbreak of Nipah: a virus that comes from bats, but which has triggered multiple human outbreaks in recent decades. The World Health Organization (WHO) lists Nipah as one of its priority pathogens: those with high epidemic potential, and for which zero or insufficient countermeasures exist. The virus is also considered a bioterrorism threat...

Before the current outbreak in India, a total 634 cases and 376 deaths had been recorded worldwide...

Also, whereas mortality during the first Bangladesh outbreak in 2001 was 69%, during the 2013 outbreak it was 83%, while an outbreak in Kerala, India in 2018 killed 17 out of the 18 people infected – a fatality rate of 94.4%...

The Bangladesh strain is associated with additional symptoms, including muscle weakness, cough and breathing difficulties and can be transmitted directly between humans, through contact with body fluids and possibly respiratory droplets produced when people cough or sneeze. The 2018 outbreak in Kerala was associated with a further symptom: heart muscle dysfunction...

Studies on the spread of Nipah virus in Bangladesh have suggested that human-to-human transmission occurs through direct contact with patients and their body secretions, such as urine, blood, and nasal or respiratory droplets. Such infections have usually occurred in hospitals among healthcare staff, caregivers or visitors, although transmission within households is also believed to have occurred...

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/seven-things-you-need-know-about-nipah-virus?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw74e1BhBnEiwAbqOAjBXEbsbh042OGVV5EmDfa0EbdCNDNqfI5euPrN3YqMrOAbQl9YbjjxoCwcAQAvD_BwE

But, have no fear. Five months after the Nipah outbreaks, selected legislators convened in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) to discuss national security issues, which hopefully included this potentially actively-unfolding pandemic, as well as other developing threats.

"Mike Johnson Urges Calm After Republican Discloses Mysterious 'National Security Threat'
Arthur Delaney
Updated February 14, 2024"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-johnson-urges-calm-republicans-192533613.html

Even though members of the Hope Accord have called for a ban on mRNA vaccines, "Vaccines are being developed against (Nipah). While there are currently no approved human vaccines or treatments for Nipah, several are currently in clinical trials, including an mRNA-based vaccine, one based on a protein from the closely related Hendra virus and another that uses a harmless vesicular stomatitis virus to deliver a Nipah virus protein." We can only hope that the protein-based vaccine, such as made by Sanofi for Novavax, and enhanced with the lenz cocktail, will be selected as the Standard of Care to prevent this potential pandemic, as well as using lenz to treat infected patients, whether hospitalized or on an outpatient basis while their CRP levels are low.

I don't think Taran acquired all of the Humanigen patents. This bankruptcy case is going to be closed out, with all creditors paid, and our merged entity could continue to use what will be the well-capitalized shell, which we'll quickly relist on the OTC with our new ticker, until Nasdaq requirements are met again. Given our share structure, regaining Nasdaq compliance won't take long. The delinquent filings have probably been completed for some time, if that will be necessary.

How can / by what means would Taran merge with a company that doesn’t exist? If it could, why would it?

It's gonna be kinda hard to make the case that Taran stole the IP from Humanigen and the shareholders, when they do a stock-for-stock (or a 5:1) merger with us. And if it does prove to be a 5:1 merger, that will only be because the entity we form with Taran, will do a further merger with Sanofi and/or Novavax, which will result in the creation of another new entity, jointly owned by HOT, Sanofi, and/or Novavax.

That's exactly the kind of justification the bankruptcy court judge would have amended the Asset Purchase Agreement to accommodate.

jay i probably would be able to go to all those beautiful places had durrant gotten the job done.
not anymore though.

If the drug LENZI works in preventing deaths from viral infections, and since the IP patent was 'stolen' and Taran got it for FREE. the powers to be or gov't can confiscate the patents from Taran and the ip patent becomes 'public property' and gov't owns and sell it for FREE. .. A shame that a person would die because they could not afford a cheap drug or like die from any illness where a drug is available but costly or someone 'owns' the patent. its absurd and one of the flaws of IP law. when material is not sold or not released to the public for consumption.
many ip or coyright owners are now owned by hedge funds and copyright material like books and movies and they refuse to license to other TV stations because they own the 'rights' or own the IP material. that is why you don't see any movies or many shows in free over the air cable channels anymore. they won't license the content. or they want too much for it. The public loses when ip material is deliberately not released to consumers or public consumption to keep price high or exclusive use. or 'proprietory technology to increase the paper 'value' of their ip assets. so they can sell it higher to another owner of the ip content.

Pretty scary to see a bat/pig virus with a 70-80% kill rate. That's almost as bad as the pangolin. The Nipah virus can result in ARDS, and it appears that patients present with increased coughing, causing concern the virus could be airborne. This sounds exactly like a virus where lenz could be used to arrest the Acute Respiratory Distress and prevent the cytokine storm that patients can enter into.

""If it passes easily from human to human, we are in for a big problem"

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/if-it-passes-easily-from-human-to-human-we-are-in-for-a-big-problem/ar-BB1qxhil?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=e1065514f6a447c1aa8b04a8838f3fa8&ei=12

I guess there is no anti- viral drugs for some viral infection for some patients.
Only .005% of peopled who were not vaccinated died from the corvid or any viral infection either their immune system is weakened due to illness or have an immune dificiency like AIDS.

many of deaths are elderly or people with compromised immune systems. that cannot fight off an viral infection as the virus takes over the body and kills patient.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/if-it-passes-easily-from-human-to-human-we-are-in-for-a-big-problem/ar-BB1qxhil?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=e1065514f6a447c1aa8b04a8838f3fa8&ei=12

this is where very expensive viral drugs may save some lives but due to high cost many patients cannot access these drugs or or not safe and risky and not approved which is when compassion use is used. When alternative is death as their is no other solution, and drug or experimental drug is better than none.

Does Lenzi work or any other drug work in viral infections when their is no vaccine for the viral infection?

Didn't we, at one time, talk about Florence and Pisa, and the Alps? I remember trying to buy Italian Ice in a local shop, and was very grateful for the translational help I got from a young American lady, living in an Italian villa that her father had bought. I didn't go further south than Pisa, so I never got to Malta, just south of Italy. But Switzerland is beautiful, just north of Italy. If I'm lucky with this investment, maybe I'll go back to the the Oberammergau part of Garmisch-Partenkirchen, and to Austria, and import crystal, wood and candle carvings, and Steifel and Goebel porcelain figurines. Maybe my daughter will appreciate owning a gift shop and not having a boss.

It's a beautiful part of the world, and relocating ex-pats and investment migrants is a cottage industry.

https://www.henleyglobal.com/services/private-clients

If I was Dale, I'd spend summer in Switzerland, and winters in Malta.

But, we basically have more and more people, here in the States, moving into new States where their values are more broadly integrated into everyday life. That most certainly applies to me, and my choice to live in Texas, and rural Texas, at that, and in what I actually consider the Republic of Texas, with my own Alamo.

Dale is fortunate enough to have the lifestyle he wants. There's no more reason to disparage him for his decision, than there is to disparage me for mine. I think we both made moves in accordance with our abilities and desires. I'm glad as hell, when my enlistment was up, I left my duty assignment in Germany, and did not go back to Youngstown, Ohio. I don't think I'd like posting as "rust bucket jay."

If he renounces his US citizenship and moves to another country and has his assets and money moved offshore to Russia or another country with no extradiction treaty with US, it's impossible for SEC to seize his assets. SEC has no jurisdiction over 'foreign' banks or foreign entities if the country has no extradiction treaty and he is no longer a US citizen and money is laundered in foreign crypto etc it's impossible to recover any money without the co operation of foreign police like interpol. Even interpol is voluntary organization. where police issue wanted felons who have fled the country. but local police don't have time for this stuff like stock fraud which is low priority. they only interested in murders etc or terrorist hiding but it's impossible to find if the guy is hiding in Iran or Iraq where US authorities haven no intelligence or co operation from local police like Russia, if he moves all his money to Russia, the Russian police won't co operate with SEC request and tell the SEC back off In the mafia world. guys who rip off the mafia get murdered or have a contract on their life. and they live a lifetime as fugitive in hiding.

With SpongeTech, I focused on the SEC and FINRA.

Here, as soon as I saw how the share structure was designed, I knew it would be pointless for me to worry about those agencies. I believed that management was defending us appropriately and effectively against them. Besides, the FDA, the NIH, and NIAID gave us plenty to question. And the spotlight on them has just continued to shine brighter, with us gaining pharmaceutical partnering interest, as well as overall media and legislative interest increasing in regards to the safety and efficacy of the institutionalized covid prevention and treatment protocols. I am confident we will prevail in getting lenz approved and commercialized on a worldwide scale. I only hope to be able to re-enter my $200 sell orders at the right time when our trading resumes.

I think the time has arrived to finally deal with the SEC. The fact that we are doing so in mediation, versus a continued Litigation Release or Admin Proceeding, I think signifies less SEC interest in continuing to try to prosecute this case, which has likely proven not be be what they thought it was.

if dale is so innocent why would he flee country

If you say so. But...isn't that what we're all trying to do?

It was actually here for a few days. The significance of the data is what made it so incredible, not the length of time that it was here.

believe me i wish it were not true ,

and if dale tried to dupe the market by selling high and secretly buying low the powers that be will have him stripped of his money , his freedom, and his clothes

you saw that number on this site of all places for a day .
that is hardly evidence of anything

Calling a float that is 192% of the OS hardly constitutes, "...a dearth of shares available..." It will make for one helluva recall of the loaned shares, though.

I didn't realize that Geoff Winkler had been engaged by Black Horse for so much time, prior to his appointment as the receiver of the Black Horse entities' assets. In fact, he had signature authority for the Black Horse entities, to sign the Form 4 reflecting the ~11M share total that you cited. Who knows how long these shares were in the process of being transferred?

i agree there is absolutely zero evidence of " secret " ownership of shares.
dale has what he has reported to SEC.
two people that post here supposedly purchased 14 million shares for about 10-15 grand lmao.
that would not have been at all possible if there were such a dearth of shares available as jay portrays

sec needs to claw back the 70 mm dale stole thats for certain