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NO!! Reading the Documents are YOUR Responsibility.


You post too much.

Please attend to your cows.

Lunch?
Maybe I can help you with the Historical documents.
#5885 fn 2. 5AT.



Ron

Well if Newflow didn't post what he or she had found. Perhaps none of us would've ever seen it.  Give Us your take on it JHD 😉 
Thanks Newflow!👍🏻

JPM Was the Writer of 57% of the Derivative Market.

Norinchukin Bank is just the test case and very small derivative writer.
Was the $9 million just for the LIBOR manipulation?
May have nothing to do with the full payment to the seized banks RMBS.

This is just a way to keep JPM from being in the Headlines.

According to the FDIC WMB securitized $2 Trillion in RMBS of which $500 Billion was sold to F&F.

DB Globic RMBS losses were reported to be 11.9%


$1,500B * .119 = $178.5 Billion

JPM;
$178.5B * .57 = $101.75 Billion just to WMI for WMB.

The base numbers haven’t changed, just the accumulation of interest payments.



Ron

We dropped below 130.00.....oh no....lol

Hey, just a friendly suggestion — for those posting links to lengthy legal documents or filings, it would really help if you could include a brief summary or your key takeaway. Not everyone has the time or background to dig through 20 pages of legal language, and a quick footnote would make it easier for the rest of us to follow.

Thanks!

JHD

Somewhat does that all mean?

JHD

Well, I believe it makes sense to buy in here once the shock and awe comes off people things will start to turn and it’s at a discount

~225k BUY at the close

LIBOR (19) Washington Mutual Bank
https://www.fdic.gov/foia/settlement-and-release-agreement-20-closed-banks-and-norinchukin-bank

The enemies would have to be stupid to wait for the US and Europe to recover ...

https://archive.org/details/red-dawn_202503

Yeah I get it...

JHD

And he is the last person I want to hear from.

Dimon speaks...https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/07/jamie-dimon-trump-tariffs-inflation-economy.html

Well I guess it’s not my concern whether you ignore me or not I don’t think ignoring is the way to go. Mr. Bill ignored me, but I don’t think that’s a mature way to handle things and yes, I do agree this country needed to change because it was ran through the ringer the last four years I do, however, believe that Trump should’ve used a little more decorum in the way he went about it I have a friend with a $40 million Land Rover dealership with payments and land Rover stop sending cars to the United States. Another friend owns a Porsche dealership and the minute the tariff went down they turned the ships around in the middle of the ocean, so yeah it’s a tough call.

I need to learn a little bit more about tariffs I don’t see why we can’t have some free trade going on we tariff they tariff I don’t know that that’s the answer.

And yes, I own a lot of Mr. Cooper and I bought a heck of a lot more when it dropped to $9 to $11 and along the way I complained and it’s up.

Of course I do have some concerns after we’re consumed by Rocket.. OS and their ability to assimilate everything… would love to see no reverse and to see them capture a huge part of the market with increased revenues and a more efficient expense structure that more than compensates for the 2+ billion outstanding.

It will be a wonderful cradle to grave platform. Each part from redfin to rocket itself to Mr. Cooper group tops in their field and under one umbrella.

I have a little bit of a trust issue to see if this really benefits us or if this is a benefit to the powers to be at Mr. Cooper group and of course there’s a segment of the members here that feel this is all part of the major escrow plan. We will see.

JHD

Yep, and the minimum wage now in Seattle is $20.76 per hour for restaurant workers even a worker at McDonald’s. I was talking to a kid the other day who works at Starbucks. He has to wait for special discount coupons to go buy food at Subway or McDonald’s because he can’t afford it.

As the cost to employers increase, they have to increase the prices to the consumer and yeah, many companies if they want to compete, they have to go manufacture where it’s cheap. Where people don’t make a whole lot and live in a 600 square-foot apartment with five people.

JHD

Would you like me to?

Look, for months I would see you complaining about COOP being down, and I would tease you about it being a particular day of the week, relax and it would come back. And it did. Now, it's how much higher than before, and we're on the cusp of an amazing deal that should prove to be a windfall, and I see people panicking over something we all knew was coming, and COOP is STILL holding up nicely.

Are you on board, for needed corrections that this country sorely needs, OR NOT?

Like a moth to a flame.

GRANTED.

Buh-bye!!!

It was "box cost" . Corporations compete with each other and sell their products on the market. Dell, Hewlett Packard, IBM, Zenith, Whirl Pool, the list goes on...they have to manufacture at cost that are competitive and when insurance, labor, rent, utilities, lawsuits, shipping, materials, COGS (Costs of Goods Sold) if you will, are much cheaper in another location you either go there, or your competitors do and they kick your azz. That is economics. You think its some master plan cooked up by the Feds? your government? they help by not making better laws, enacting environmental regulations, allowing lawyers to sue the chit out of companies for having hot coffee spill on an old lady, but its because its so expensive. Its that way in other developed nations also. Sure we manufacture expensive complicated stuff here but not the cheap stuff, the sweat shops.... When a family could have a good life on $30K or 40K a year we had a lot of jobs here. You think your going to pay for a house, a car, truck, internet, cell phones, cable, college, vacations, food, computers, cars for your kids, clothes, all the stuff we have now etc.. on todays prices??? If you only listen to one information source telling you the same story over and over... eventually, you will believe it but that does not make it true. Corporations moved those jobs so they could compete, and so the C-suite could get their stock options and bonuses. Wake up. America has always been great. That is is why everyone has always wanted to come here. Its the land of opportunity and always has been. There are lots of great places to live all over the world and I have been to a bunch but the USA is a pretty sweet place to be I must say and has some really cool generous people.

Did you ignore me?

JHD

OMG! You might ignore me! I won't sleep tonight.

I was a pre-bankruptcy WAMU holder. I've been here since then. I've watched and waited and hoped, just like all of us. I have wanted so hard to believe that we'll get something--even just par--for our various legacy shares. But over the years, I've learned that most of the people here and on the other boards who are so sure that we're getting some return are also people who embrace some of the looniest conspiracy theories you can dream up and some of the most obviously unethical people who have ever lived. That has diminished my belief that any of the various legacy recovery theories they embrace are anything more than conspiracy theories.

I mean, c'mon, how could anyone really believe that Trump and Musk are interested in bringing about some sort of justice or accountability to this government? They've always been the kind of people who exploit others--and have been willing to break any law they can get away with--for their own gain. They're proving it now and too many people are still in denial. Do you really think that Musk closing down the federal agencies that monitor his government contracts is going to make the government more accountable? The federal government has always protected the rich, no matter who's in power. Now it's not even going to be there to provide minimal protection for the rest of us. When there's no SEC to watch over the markets and the crooks who will do and say whatever to steal your dollars, you'll be crying.

So when people here on these boards who say that Trump and Musk are working for anything other than their own enrichment are also saying that there's reason to believe legacy holder will see recovery funds, that makes me really doubt their beliefs are based on anything other than unrealistic hopes.

We have COOP now. And it's a lot more real than the dream of legacy returns.

It would really interest me whether DJT pays import duties on the products he sells in his souvenir shop at Trump Tower (which are almost exclusively products from China or Cambodia), or if he has exempted himself from this - just a question for a friend.

b3....you might look at the Dec, 2025 100 Put..... if you STO (sell to open) a naked Put contract the premium is 8.55 quoted now.... this would put you back in COOP at 91.45 dollars which is below the price that you sold at 93 dollars a few months ago.... I dont think Coop would go this low with all the hoopla about a merger with RKT, so it probably would exercise in your favor.... you can collect 855 dollars per contract... maybe more if Coop falls back down again into todays close....just a thought... no investment advice.... I did the Dec 105 STO, and got 10.25 dollars per share in premium this morning.... not too shabby... I bought some AAPL, CVX, and some other that I had my eye on........Lodas

No poor immigrant or working-class person is responsible for where we are today.

No one is pointing out LEGAL immigrants or working class people.

YOU, were the one alluding to illegals, weren't you?

Your are one comment away from iggy world. Go ahead, push it. I know you will....

You're blaming the wrong people. Who has always controlled the U.S. government? Who has controlled our economic policies during all these years? It wasn't immigrants. It wasn't the workers. It was the rich. It was the slaveholders and the oil barons and the arms manufacturers. Regardless of which party held the White House or Congress, it was the oligarchs that controlled everything this country did economically. Good-paying union jobs didn't go overseas because they had to. They went overseas because the rich knew they could make more money by exploiting the cheap labor there. The unions here were successfully attacked and diminished to reduce their power to fight for fair wages--partly by blaming them for the loss of jobs.

If there's a "deep state," it isn't controlled by "liberals." It's controlled by capital, no matter what party they align with.

No poor immigrant or working-class person is responsible for where we are today.

What about inflation and devaluation of our dollar? Have you considered that the puppet master FED shipped American jobs to 3rd world places to hide the damage to America from using unsound money?????Maybe, just maybe, Team Trump is assembling a sound currency policy backed by Gold , Crypto and constitutional sponsored currency that benefit the people of our country and gives us back a strong working class using SOUND money . 
Or CONtinue to believe the Fed is looking out for us by shipping away our jobs and inflating us to oblivion ! 
Your choice 

None of them were great, some better than most.

JHD

There’s good and bad in everything.
Hate is never the answer… weeding out the chaff takes time but needs to be done thoughtfully.

JHD

Real trouble about to start - Japan dumping US treasury and other countries would follow.. that is the final curtain when lights goes off.. for a while.. then recovery begins....

" At Foxconn in China they had to put up nets around the dormitory's to prevent workers from jumping to their deaths because they wanted their families back home to get a $50K death benefit."

I read that it was because they were working 16 hr shifts and pretty much trapped in dormitory style living.

I would really be surprised if they thought a life was worth 50K.

You're drunk on the Kool-aid.

"All immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than natives relative to their shares of the population. Even illegal immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans."

https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-reform-bulletin/criminal-immigrants-their-numbers-demographics-countries

Trump Or NO Trump, This is the TRUTH...There are a Lot of Ignorant Bozos in the US who don't know this...Bozos always Talk BIG, they War Monger when they see the USA Troops fight the wars that these guys at home Promote/propagate BUT none of these Bozos sitting at home will ever Volunteer to go and fight in one of those Wars...Too Much Money was frittered away on Wars and "Free Money" to Loafers at Home...Money that was All Borrowed as Debt. All those "Free Monies' 'schemes' need to be Cut and WAR-Waste $$$ Budget needs to be CUT...Otherwise, we are going to get a RUDE Awakening as other Countries will start dumping More of US Debt and there will be NO Takers for US Treasuries (READ US $$) Anymore...Its already Happening, It'll only Worsen if the Wasteful Spending is Not Cut...

That's why there are work visas (H-2A), so we know who they are and they pay taxes. Not a bunch of illegal aliens breaking our laws

Yeah, but the Führer says that all them Mexcans are rapists and fentanyl smugglers. We can't have that now, can we?

They were buying treasuries and supporting USA $.. and USA policies world wide.. we printed too much

We can’t keep sending our manufacturing and jobs overseas and letting other countries screw us over indefinitely. Blame Congress and the government for the last 30 years of hollowing out our country, and blame companies that were fine with screwing over American workers by outsourcing to make insane gross profits off of slave labor and manipulated currency.

And so many of those companies that were founded here and grew here that turned their back on us have the balls to wave the red, white, and blue at every holiday telling us how patriotic they are.

Those days are done.

The stars will align. Just got to have some patience.

Hell, I've been here since '08....

Deutsche Bank lifts Rocket Cos stock rating to buy, target to $16

https://www.investing.com/news/analyst-ratings/deutsche-bank-lifts-rocket-cos-stock-rating-to-buy-target-to-16-93CH-3962063

exactly, this is why EU win in car Tarifs 😂

Great comment. Thank you.

JHD

If you are king then you are alone on top - your manufacturing, agriculture, and all other services are useless because no one can afford it. US GDP calculations are wrong (see tweets from US Govt even pointing to it, we have been fooled but rest of the world knows about it - a king can make own rules that fit kingdom), printing $ was added to GDP, and cheap money raised by treasury was circulated in the USA, without any real product, that is why market kept on rising and poor became poor. I voted for Trump as well...I know his methods are harsh.. there is an expert and he summarized this situation as the following:
"Imagine US economy is very a sick person, the right way to treat sick person his to first give some medication, stabilize the heath (wait some time), and prepare for surgery. Give that person anesthesia and then performed the treatment.
But Trump bypassed all the steps, and didn't even give anesthesia to the sick and directly operating (surgery) on the person."
That is why all this these cries - I voted for this change and democrat would have done the same but they would have made the person more sick in next 3 years and last years the treatment would have started.

Because US cars are too big and engines are too big. Maybe you should go to Europe and see for yourself.

b3.....I bought AAPL, BG, ADM, FCX,NVDA, TSM, FDX, UPS, CVX....got my eye on the good "stuff" people are selling.... the world is bigger than DJT....he needs to go and resign before the Dollar Dominance is questioned by world markets.... who will buy our DEBT now that he made enemies all over the world....Interest rates will rise, and countries that will buy our debt will want more interest...commercial properties will go into default when they refinance the mortgage loans coming due shortly... Janet Yellon (Treasury Sec.) has to print money to roll existing debt...who will buy these Bonds and T-Bills on world markets now....If China, and Japan, and the rest of the Creditor nations want to cash in their holdings in USA debt... they will drain Fort Knox of a lot of Gold..... just goes on, and on with this turd...however, you are right, there will be a Bounce in the stock market because the MM cannot continue absorbing these losses....remember, they post bid and ask prices to keep the market stable.... if people sell, when the bid price is posted... they are obligated to BUY at that price.........watch for the close today and buy stock then,,, you will get a better price.....Lodas

EU don't buy US cars, but can sell BMW Mercedes VW Porsche without Tarifs .. win ..😂

EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said on Monday that the bloc has offered a “zero-for-zero tariff” trade arrangement on industrial goods with the United States in a bid to avoid a full-on trade war.

Strange, almost like having a backbone seems to work?

Lodas.......What are you buying right now to ride the bounce back?? I am looking at the Russell 2000 ETF, and watching some individual US companies that have been hammered.

Thank you for your well considered Post.
The problem is that if everything came to America, you couldn’t afford the amount of money we would have to pay for items. In my area the farm fields around here where Hispanics work with their families.... no white boy will take that job. It’s too demeaning doesn’t pay enough. Sitting around a hot field all day working your ass off next to pesticides that have been sprayed on the fields. No most young kids would rather sit at home and watch Stream after stream of Netflix and Hulu. .

So if you’re bringing everything to America with the kind of pay that people demand before they step foot out the door I don’t know how that’s gonna work. We get a lot of stuff from other countries because they make it better and cheaper than we can or should I say it’s the combination of the two.

JHD

This has since been shown as fake news

I spent the last 30+ years in and out of China, Japan, Malaysia, Thailand, Taiwan, and Singapore factories. I watched as some parts of electronic manufacturing moved overseas while design, robotics, and several of the really complicated aspects remained stateside. Many of the jobs that did move we would not want here and now much of what was very labor intensive has transitioned to robotics. The USA has a lot of laws and environmental requirements that make it less competitive in many ways and we are a very litigious society. At Foxconn in China they had to put up nets around the dormitory's to prevent workers from jumping to their deaths because they wanted their families back home to get a $50K death benefit. Manufacturing in Mexico that piled young girls into Juarez where living conditions were horrible and thousands would go missing and nobody cared that they were never found. Lots and lots of bad things witnessed.

However, we all got much cheaper products. Cheaper clothes, computers, etc.. so nobody wants to count that part of the deficit they benefited from.... the Trillions of dollars we saved in not paying for higher cost products, the environmental impact, crime and social impacts we avoided... When you look at the interaction between countries it is not as easy as taking a trade deficit and dividing it in half and plopping it down on the table. Whether people like it or not globalization has already occurred. Everybody wants things to improve. Lighting the barn on fire to get a couple rats out isn't the way to do it, try sending in a few cats first.