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AZ
REALLY YOU DO know THAT WMI WAS THE only one THAT WAS IN chapter 11 RIGHT?????????? wmb WAS SEIZED

IMHO you are gonna have a LOT OF MINIONS on your butt with pitch forks and torches

@ AZCowboy......you are right.... the 75/25 split of the Disputed Equity shares that was placed in Escrow Holding pertained only for those obtained from the Employees Claims that were denied in court...The WMIL-T placed them on hold until the court decided to whom those disputed shares belong to... the court denied the Employees claim to them and the WMIL-T released them to common and preferred holders in a ratio of 75% preferred, and 25% common.... In no way was this ratio to apply to any future recovery, if any, past the chapter 11 closing... that is why Rosen petitioned the court to remove them from brokerage accounts, but the judge acquiesced , and let them remain for a certain period, then , WMIH told brokerages to remove them from brolerage accounts....again, I remember that preferreds were given an option before signing the release document to participate in an offering to buy various preferred instruments....... so, maybe that is what you are in reference of... did you buy, and participate in those offerings by WMI?....if so, then so state it in order as not to confuse many on this board THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THOSE OFFERINGS BY WMI......peace bro, no truck with you.... just want to know the truth in this long drawn out saga, when everyone has each other on ignore when they dont agree with each other.... Lodas

~ Well, The 2012 WMI Reorganizations Plan 7 "Release Documents" ... ARE, first Individualized per Owner, per Cusip Number, and per the Amount of the individualized Cusip Owned', ... NO WHERE' does a Plan 7' Release Document' mention ANY Need for a ratio sharing between the security's ~

... all of that continued misconception, ... (just like ppennnys, & gw-bs chap 7, and coffffeeee cup ?) ..., regarding this 75/25 ratio misunderstanding ?, ... another incorrect message, this was only "TO THE END" of the wmi-lt' ...

the ol' cactus bangers could simply ... READ your Release' (not comic books) ... ol' cactus IS obviously NOT affected', owning ALL, (Now Free) All that was WaMu ... plus COOP' ... and a lot of LBHI CT's and WMB Note / Euro Bonds ...

anyhew,

AZ

So far.....
75/25 ratio of $0.00 = $0.00
100% of $0.00 = $0.00

I want some type of resolution, soon. This saga has gone on too long.

@ KeyKey...... I suggest that you contact your brokerage house for an answer to your question... they are in direct communication to whomever will make any decisions regarding your expected recovery...sadly, the documents I read, that were filed by WMI stated that all previous prospectuses were deemed null and void....does this refer to what you are holding?... I don't know, and would not care to speculate..... Lodas

Sure thing there Pecos Bill lol

Pecos Bill was born under a cactus and raised by coyotes, lassoed tornadoes for fun, and dug the Rio Grande with a rusty spoon. He rode his ornery horse, Widow-Maker, and wrestled cyclones to carve the Grand Canyon.
He married Slue-Foot Sue, who could ride giant catfish. Their wedding BBQ needed all the cattle in New Mexico. Bill taught critters to sing and used rattlesnakes as lassos.
Pecos Bill’s adventures are as tall as the tales themselves!

BBANBOB, that was an excellent summation, and I could NOT have said it better myself!


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You call out all posters who do not align with yours as being wrong in their opinions..yet you are here with no better results.....but again you continue to claim soon which will be decades.....for now your opinions just that opinions with no facts...sit here waiting along with everyone else..

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Now lets take a trip down memory lane, you ALWAYS SAID that """EQUITY ALWAYS OWNS THE COMPANY RIGHT""" ?
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN and out of the BLUE once the 8K and PR came out about the 75/25 payout matrix to """"QUELL MESSAGE BOARD RUMORS and ""MISINFORMATION"" and stated that PREFERD EQUITY and COMMON EQUITY will be 75/25

AND ONLY till that happened did you start saying COMMON SHAREHOLDERs own the company, before that you ALWAYS STATED ""EQUITY ALWAYS OWNs a COMPANY""

Can you please make up your mind and stop blowing with the wind you want to be blowing the way ya want it to blow, THEY TOLD US ALL pre election and twice POST election how it would be.

""WMI's common shares OWNED The Washington Mutual Inc. "Holding Company" ... Period ~ "


TIME WILL TELL AND TIME TELLS ALL your lemmings are imho gonna be real pissed off when they realize, this was a NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT that changed what would have normally been, where prefrds would only been allowed to get full face back and then the balance would go to commons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT with the ""NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT those rules were change..

The real tell as you like to say, was them putting out the payout matrix before we voted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't seem to understand they did this to legally cover their collective rear ends in case of lawsuits and they did that very well, as All here were told the truth AS TO EXACTLY HOW THE PAYOUT WOULD BE MADE prior to them electing to participate AND NOW CAN NOT be sued for not being honest with all that PARTICIPATED



We'll see and hope we will all be here to see
All will be fine, it is just that some will be FINER THAN OTHERS

Have a great day pondering that

~ ADDED, & Finally ... the Original wamuq's, WMI's common shares OWNED The Washington Mutual Inc. "Holding Company" ... Period ... Then, The Washington Mutual Inc. "Holding Company" offered the sale of the p's and k's to the public ~

as well as ... ALL That the Washington Mutual Inc. "Holding Company" ... received for its own financial participations, ... All described in one's Release' Document ...

Abba Da Ayy

AZ

~ Following Up John, (busy yesterday), ... "WE" were the "purchasers" of the WMI offerings' ... "WMI" was the participant in the "9 investment trusts", all nine were simultaneously moved, (10-K's) ... as well as other WMI owned financial products ~

... * Only the WMI Holding Company "Filed" for chapter 11 protection' ... and was Court Approved to be reorganized' ... 2012's, WMIHC then to 2015's WMIH

... * the operational subs' of the WMI Holding Company were used for financially positive inbound income' ... the 10-K reported listing for WMI's subs was extensive' ... functioning separately from the Holding Company

... * "ANY" access to the perspectives and audit reports on the 9 investment trusts as beneficiaries? ... would be available to the WMI Subsidiary used', AND NOT ever be made available to US' (we') ...

... * only Three of the Nine Trust Cusips, are Cusip related via a Release Document, specifying the owner, and the amount of ownership,

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* cofffeeeecup confused the process many, many, many times, and continues to do so'

* the Underwriters WERE NOT EVER going to allow the Plan to be disrupted, especially AFTER the Trusts had already been moved, prior to those filings court submitted in 2019' that WERE NOT Successful

* now, 40,000 (ish) poster does the same, with the 75/25 distribution ratio's promotions, LIMITED up to and until the, ... "THE END OF THE wmi-lt" ... the wmi-lt is done' ...

* ronn-emoji ?, ... misunderstands the most', ... first, just who was actually released (stickied on this bulletin board), (NOT), ... misreading the 2012' MOR's and believing that a chapter 11 COURT allowed to reorganize, with retained earnings' held back, doesn't happen (NOT) ... likes to post without positions owned ...

* R-D, is a close second ... way, way, way, off the rails (iggied)

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BONDS, ... WMI's, 19's and LBHI's... WMB Notes / Euro Bonds (original 17's) and the LBHI CT's (original 10-a's) ... L@@K GREAT, (checked daily, along with all free WaMu) and are the canary's in the coal mine' ...

"COOP", as a WMIH 2018 acquisition sub grouping, doesn't have the asss to cash the WaMu / WMIH checks' ...

Washington Business Bank is NOT WAMU. Why don't you look into Sound Credit Union's acquisition of Washington Business Bank from last year?

I have a question.
I have several accounts where I had Wamu-Shares stored.
I had all different types, U-Commons, K-Prefs, P-Prefs and also the so called H-Bonds.
K-Prefs Escrow-Markers were PREM-(positional removal)-ed long time ago.
U-Commons Escrow-Markers were canceled recently now of all accounts.
BUT the P-Prefs Escrow-Markers are still there.
Any idea why they did not cancel the P-Prefs Escrow-Markers yet ? Thanks

can you be more specific in your belief of 100% that escrows will see recovery?....just list one reason that you hold, because your belief cannot be examined because it is personal....no need to list all your reasons, just list one, and I will be happy, and encouraged to entertain a discussion about your belief.... fair enough?....Lodas

Project 2050-1-1.

Anyone....anyone listening to this fool is 2x at this point. He's famous for falsely tossing around complete nonsense 

RD,

Nowhere on that page does it list Washington Mutual Bank. Did you post the wrong page or are you talking about a different bank closure?

TIA

You're truly an idiot. Washington Business Bank is NOT WAMU. Why don't you look into Sound Credit Union's acquisition of Washington Business Bank from last year?

Also like the truist connection

That was JPM that legally stole the namesake forever killing the name off so nobody else could use it but if this company had it for years there is nothing they could do if it is a separate company with separate tax ID.

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Yes I believe the BK court required That Washington Mutual could never be used in the future.

Hello RD. Hope you are doing well. Are you saying that Washington Business Bank is the same as WaMu that was resolved last month?


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Washington Business Bank
OLYMPIA
WA
Washington Business Bank
Stipulated Orders and Written Agreements
Voluntary Termination of Deposit Insurance
12/18/2024
FDIC-24-0108p
TSB Bank
LOMIRA
WI
TSB Bank
Stipulated Orders and Written Agreements
Voluntary Termination of Deposit Insurance
12/18/2024
FDIC-24-0044p
First National Bank Northwest Florida
PANAMA CITY
FL
First National Bank Northwest Florida
Stipulated Orders and Written Agreements
Voluntary Termination of Deposit Insurance
12/18/2024
FDIC-24-0048p
Northside Community Bank
GURNEE
IL
Northside Community Bank
Stipulated Orders and Written Agreements
Voluntary Termination of Deposit Insurance
12/18/2024
FDIC-24-0037p


https://orders.fdic.gov/s/press-release-orders?prDate=31&prMonth=1&prYear=2025&source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

~ Hello John, ... no worries', it's ALL being controlled' every penny ~
"Uncontrolled money scares me in private equity situations!"
AZ

(let the foolishness continue' ... it's quite entertaining actually LOL), but ?, won't mean a thing' LOL

Ron
I agree with your DD. We however have different methods. You come from the the basic value of 2008, no worries. I have focused on the transfer agent and after negotiation in ei. Project West and a number of $ that have been transfered to and from the Deleware Trusts. As a result my numbers are higher. They have also hidden value in the Washinton Mutual Fund and Pimco. We will all win unless the whole world blows up.

AIMO Royal

Also do not forget our incom from Pimco ETFs and the Wahinton Mutual (American Century) Mutual Fund 189 Bil $

Yes we will see (JPM,COOP, WMI) stock and direct Bonds from JPM in Series A and their own and creations this past summer by JPM.of preferred. JMO

merger ?? are you thinkin shares of a company instead of cash to hide this crapola under the rug ???

Diamond, Wmi will be part of the merger and does not have to be terminated, not in receivership

AZ any idea when we will have access to the perspectives and audit reports on the 9 investment trusts as beneficiaries? Uncontrolled money scares me in private equity situations!

Semper Fi

why NO WMI on list ??

The receivaship has just closed in December 24th shown today

https://orders.fdic.gov/s/press-release-orders?prDate=31&prMonth=1&prYear=2025&source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

Damn son
'''' I'm now 48'''

Wish I was now 48, heck I wasn't 48 when I started this journey I was already 56 and am now 72.

Now ya see why some of us are impatient

I used Google translate, however, it didn’t help!

Maybe we can report this wasteful lawsuit for Libor by FDIC to DOGE. We need to end these silly Liibor lawsuit that will go nowhere and close the receivership!!!!

I'm 100% positive money is coming to old escrow owners...Why else would the FDIC go through so much trouble to not close the receivership after 16 years?? However I'm not sure if I will ever see this money. I'm now 48 and I have a feeling I will retire before the receivership closes. Maybe my son will inherit it when he comes of age.

Nothing matters until it matters.

JHD

yo ron????.... you still did not substantiate your assertion that WMIIC is where the Trusts hold the money for your assumed recovery.... I provided the documents that stated WMI liquidated the WMIIC Trust funds, then subsequently closed them down when the chapter 11 was finalized....WMIH, successor to WMI states in the 2013 WMIH 10-K that WMIIC does NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!!!....now ron, in order to be credible, you must BACK UP YOUR ASSERTIONS AND NOT HIDE BEHIND THE IGNORE BUTTON!!!.....in addition, common shareholders in no way own the estate.... WMI made that fact very clear in their language that WMI held ownership of the estate, before, during, and AFTER THE PENDENCY OF THE CHAPTER 11 RESTRUCTURING CLOSED!!!!!.... now, be a man, and defend your assertions..... Lodas

Totally Incorrect. You Haven’t Read My Posts.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profile.aspx?user=631267

UQ own the Debtors Estate.
Everything after the February MOR of $20.7B-> now ~$25B.
75/25%.
Hence;
~2.5X face for the Class 19 from the Retained Earnings. plus other property rights of Performance Payments as I have discussed.
~2.2X more from the Performance Payment’s.

UQ owns the FDIC Receivership Claims for WMB and it asserts.
And other Safe Harbor Assets.

~$300 Billion Dollars according to the FDIC.

My JPM Release;
41.6; “Willful Misconduct”.



Ron

Which leads to the one billion dollar question.....when will the receivership end? like what...2040? Most of us will be out of here by then.

So according to Ron the Uq is choped liver and according to RD We're Uq getting paid.   Off course 25/75   as we saw they're going to pay PQ KQ UQ with common shares and coop either has no P k shares or converted PKq to the Common coop shares.    Jmho. Best 🍀💖🍀 

No RD. $1,000 Face Value.

Series R (P);
$3 Billion Dollar claim.
3 million shares at $1,000.

Series K;
$.5 Billion Dollar claim.


TPS;
$4 Billion Dollar claim.
40 thousand shares at $1
million face

All totaling to $7.5 Billion.


Hence the Class 19 claim in the February MOR of $7.5 Billion.



Ron

Bill
Because this is an approximation

P' = $10,000 Series OO. = 30 bil

U's = 130 bil ÷ 1.2 bil = 108 per share in Series A

Total = 160 bil/ 1.2 bil / ?

Sure wish they would tell us so we would not have to guess

Why not $300?? It’s usually more than what is expected! ?? I hope it works out for us at $300 for us!!

Agree. It will go up and settle down after earnings.

Though long it may be ..we’re headed to $200.

JHD

Good response....keep posting!!!!!

Royal sometimes it’s difficult to accept the truth for most and me too! Stay strong and blessed my friend!

Why so angry. Jesus loves you

no one is getting anything post chapter 11 closing.... your escrows were deemed "worthless", and have nothing to do with post chapter 11 settlement!!!!.... they were counting markers only instituted by the WMIL-T to holders of common and preferred shares pending the outcome of the Employees claims, which was denied in court, and the escrow shares placed in the DEE ( disputed equity claims) was given to holders of common and equity claims in a ratio of 25/75.... then escrows were removed from brokerage accounts as having no further value!!!!!!!....there is a MAJOR MIS UNDERSTANDING IN YOUR KNOWLEDGE of this whole affair.....calling people trolls is an infantile way in deflecting your ignorance....I suggest that you engage those that oppose your viewpoint in an intellectual discussion of why they differ from you.......It is obvious that you have read no official documents, but have relied on others for your misguided information.... Lodas

Proof? You wouldn't recognize if it was in your lap.